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Old Mar 13, 2013 | 08:49 AM
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997.1 stock alignment specs??

I've searched this forum and googled some and can't find what I'm looking for. Can someone either give me a link or the actual specs. I want to double-check the specs my alignment guy is using. I want to re-align with minimal rear camber and toe to maximize tire mileage. (but will remain within the range)
 
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they should be listed in the computer on the actual machine being used ....factory spec gt2,gt3 etc
 
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Factory specs as listed:

Front
Camber: crap
Toe: crap
Castor: Fixed

Rear
Same as front

LOL.

Most likely your rear toe is to far in on both sides. I don't have factory specs but to much toe is usuallt the main issue. Good luck!
 
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My advice, don't mess with the rear too much. You will be amazed how no toe or slight toe out will make the car almost uncontrollable, particularly when the rears catch the ruts on the road.
 
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Originally Posted by Mattym6
they should be listed in the computer on the actual machine being used ....factory spec gt2,gt3 etc
I've seen different specs from 2 shops, so I'm looking to settle this on my own now.
 
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My advice, don't mess with the rear too much. You will be amazed how no toe or slight toe out will make the car almost uncontrollable, particularly when the rears catch the ruts on the road.
Interesting advice that I haven't seen before. I've seen it recommended to get the rear toe down to .1 degrees for the best overall results. (balance between wear and handling)
 
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.1 is about as "low" as you want to go. Due to some errors on an alignment, caused by having 20" wheels, the rear toe on my car ended up being about .1 toe out on the rear.

When the rear would catch the ruts it would be over steer when going straight. Not a fun feeling or dynamic when you are bolting down the highway.
 
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Question.


I've a dozen alignments on various racks,.. and done perhaps 50 with lasers or strings,.. and I've never run into specs listed this way.

The chart above shows toe for the rear as 10 feet? +/- 5 feet?

What is that spec,.. it makes no sense.

Can someone help me out?
 
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Are they perhaps using the apostrophe symbol to refer to MOA (Minutes of Arc)?

If so,.. 10 MOA would be about 0.17 degrees. and the +/- 5 would give a range of 0.083 to 0.25 degrees tow in per wheel.

Total toe-in of .16 to .5 degrees.
 
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Originally Posted by petegtsv10
I've searched this forum and googled some and can't find what I'm looking for. Can someone either give me a link or the actual specs. I want to double-check the specs my alignment guy is using. I want to re-align with minimal rear camber and toe to maximize tire mileage. (but will remain within the range)
See computer printout below. Hope this helps.




https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...red-turbo.html

 
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I pulled this from the software I bought with the Auto Repair franchise I purchased. Seems in line with above.

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Originally Posted by therock88
I pulled this from the software I bought with the Auto Repair franchise I purchased. Seems in line with above.

DC

The question is though,.... what does 10' mean for rear toe?

Obviously not ten feet.
 
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Originally Posted by Duckstu
The question is though,.... what does 10' mean for rear toe?

Obviously not ten feet.
It is Minutes...This should answer your question:

Wheel Alignment Specifications are normally given in angular values
of degrees and minutes.

A circle consists of 360 segments called DEGREES, symbolized by the
indicator °

Each DEGREE again has 60 segments called MINUTES symbolized by
the indicator ‘.

Therefore, for example a ½° (Degree) is also the same as 30’ (Minutes)
and ¼ ° (Degree) is the same as 15’ (Minutes)
Angular values are popular in that they are not reliant on wheel sizes
(rims), nevertheless in certain instances the values of TOE are given in
Millimetres. When this format is used then it is imperative that the wheel
sizes (rim) are known, simply for the fact that as one moves away from a
given point on the wheel (normally the centre) then the millimetre value
will increase the further one moves off the centre. If the wheel (rim) size
is used then the point of measurement becomes fixed.

DC
 
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