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Old Aug 2, 2013 | 12:25 AM
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Install & Removal of Cage

I have an awesome Tequipment cage powder coated red to match some interior parts that I had installed for (very) occasional track days. Sounded great until my 3.5 year old decided he loved my 911 just like his 6 year old big brother (who had been riding in the airbag-deactivated front seat in a Porsche booster. They can fit in the back seats still but if we got into an accident their little heads would smash against the cage bars. Not good. So...I need to be able to take the cage out by myself and reinstall it whenever those occasional track days come about.

Any DIY links that you guys/gals have posted? Specific order and torque specs would be great! The search engine was frustrating me... THANKS!
 
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I am also interested in DIY on this...

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It's a DIY, but a total PIA. Two man job, takes 2+ hrs. There is a good DIY thread over on renntech describing the install, uninstall procedure. Not fun, been there, done that. Personally, I'd just leave it out all together if you just occasionally track the car.
 

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If you are interested in selling it I am looking for one and I am in Seattle.
 
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Agency Power has a roll cage with removable horizontal and angle bars which allow you to use the rear seats. No affiliation, I've just been looking at them lately for the same reason.
 
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If you are interested in selling it I am looking for one and I am in Seattle.

I'll let you know. Keeping it out altogether is sounding like a good idea. Looks cool but isn't functional w/ two kids.
 
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Originally Posted by White Rock
Agency Power has a roll cage with removable horizontal and angle bars which allow you to use the rear seats. No affiliation, I've just been looking at them lately for the same reason.

The Tequipment bar I have doesn't have a horizontal bar anyway. The bar that connects at the rear seat belt bolting point runs too close to rear seat passenger heads. A side impact would put their heads right into the bar. Not good.
 
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It's actually dangerous for the driver as well on the street, if you're in an accident and hit that bar, it's bad. The only acceptable bar for a street car is the ruf integrated bar, but is cost prohibitive.
Again, I'd take it out if I were you.
 
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Originally Posted by TT Surgeon
It's actually dangerous for the driver as well on the street, if you're in an accident and hit that bar, it's bad. The only acceptable bar for a street car is the ruf integrated bar, but is cost prohibitive.
Again, I'd take it out if I were you.
Good to know. Thanks for the input.
 
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1. disconnect the battery and place the ignition key in the house away from the car.
2 remove both seats.
3 remove the rear view mirror
4 remove the 4 lower seat belt mounting bolts.
5 using 2 plastic license plates (thin advertising kind from a dealership) tilt the rollbar towards the windshield and let it rest on the steering wheel. the plastic plates go between the alcantara roof liner and the to vertical welds on the rollbar to keep from crushing the alcantara
6 using blankets to protect the doorsills slide the bar out the pass side.

i did this by myself in a few hrs.

as for the rollbar in the car for street driving its completely behind the seats. if you are involved in an accident that forces the seat that far back the rollbar is the least of your worries.

i also have the a/p bar with the removable horizontal and vertical braces and no way you can use the seats with kids and it installed. THAT WOULD BE RECKLESS AND DANGEROUS
 
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
1. disconnect the battery and place the ignition key in the house away from the car.
2 remove both seats.
3 remove the rear view mirror
4 remove the 4 lower seat belt mounting bolts.
5 using 2 plastic license plates (thin advertising kind from a dealership) tilt the rollbar towards the windshield and let it rest on the steering wheel. the plastic plates go between the alcantara roof liner and the to vertical welds on the rollbar to keep from crushing the alcantara
6 using blankets to protect the doorsills slide the bar out the pass side.

i did this by myself in a few hrs.

as for the rollbar in the car for street driving its completely behind the seats. if you are involved in an accident that forces the seat that far back the rollbar is the least of your worries.

i also have the a/p bar with the removable horizontal and vertical braces and no way you can use the seats with kids and it installed. THAT WOULD BE RECKLESS AND DANGEROUS
You can't occupy the rear seats with the horizontal and angle braces removed? It seems like that's what they advertise?
 
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Originally Posted by White Rock
Agency Power has a roll cage with removable horizontal and angle bars which allow you to use the rear seats. No affiliation, I've just been looking at them lately for the same reason.
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You can't occupy the rear seats with the horizontal and angle braces removed? It seems like that's what they advertise?
you could occupy them but it would be very dangerous as theres no protection from the bars either the horizontal or the verticle support bars.

i would interprete their advertising as functunality would be mean storage as opposed to seating a person back there. common sense would dictate that having a metal above your head and to the side of your body would be dangerous in an accident.
 
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
you could occupy them but it would be very dangerous as theres no protection from the bars either the horizontal or the verticle support bars.

i would interprete their advertising as functunality would be mean storage as opposed to seating a person back there. common sense would dictate that having a metal above your head and to the side of your body would be dangerous in an accident.

That makes total sense. Maybe i could visualize it better if I saw one in person. I was hoping I could add pads to the side bars thus protecting from head injury and my 4 year olds wouldn't even be close to reaching the top bar. Oh well, better safe than sorry. Thanks for the feedback.
 
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Originally Posted by White Rock
That makes total sense. Maybe i could visualize it better if I saw one in person. I was hoping I could add pads to the side bars thus protecting from head injury and my 4 year olds wouldn't even be close to reaching the top bar. Oh well, better safe than sorry. Thanks for the feedback.
even with pads i wouldnt risk my kids well being. if theres going to be people in the rear seats then no roll bar. no people take the time to install it for any racing days then remove it. pain in the a#* but infinitely safer
 
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Originally Posted by 32krazy!
even with pads i wouldnt risk my kids well being. if theres going to be people in the rear seats then no roll bar. no people take the time to install it for any racing days then remove it. pain in the a#* but infinitely safer

I just installed AP roll bar. I would not have any body sitting in the back with the cross braces removed, The seats wouldn't even sit right since the roll bar uses the seat belt bolt holes. If could give you some storage room if you remove them, but honestly I had to remove the cross braces while installing and with my racing seats, they will be staying bolted in.
 
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