HRE wheel refinishing/power coating
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HRE wheel refinishing/power coating
Make a long story short, I have a set of P43's I want to change the color of (brushed clear) I want them in a satin charcoal. So I go to a local power coating place here in Chicago and the shop owner refers me to this website prismatic colors.com. Problem is there's maybe 2000 different choices in grey, and I'm trying to have them the same color as HRE's satin charcoal.
Has anyone refinished their wheels with Prismatic's colors? If so what color did you go with? I would send them right to HRE but the turn around like is pretty lengthy. These I can have back in three days max and it's about 40% of what HRE charges too.
Any advice guys?
Has anyone refinished their wheels with Prismatic's colors? If so what color did you go with? I would send them right to HRE but the turn around like is pretty lengthy. These I can have back in three days max and it's about 40% of what HRE charges too.
Any advice guys?
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Make a long story short, I have a set of P43's I want to change the color of (brushed clear) I want them in a satin charcoal. So I go to a local power coating place here in Chicago and the shop owner refers me to this website prismatic colors.com. Problem is there's maybe 2000 different choices in grey, and I'm trying to have them the same color as HRE's satin charcoal.
Has anyone refinished their wheels with Prismatic's colors? If so what color did you go with? I would send them right to HRE but the turn around like is pretty lengthy. These I can have back in three days max and it's about 40% of what HRE charges too.
Any advice guys?
Has anyone refinished their wheels with Prismatic's colors? If so what color did you go with? I would send them right to HRE but the turn around like is pretty lengthy. These I can have back in three days max and it's about 40% of what HRE charges too.
Any advice guys?
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Make a long story short, I have a set of P43's I want to change the color of (brushed clear) I want them in a satin charcoal. So I go to a local power coating place here in Chicago and the shop owner refers me to this website prismatic colors.com. Problem is there's maybe 2000 different choices in grey, and I'm trying to have them the same color as HRE's satin charcoal.
Has anyone refinished their wheels with Prismatic's colors? If so what color did you go with? I would send them right to HRE but the turn around like is pretty lengthy. These I can have back in three days max and it's about 40% of what HRE charges too.
Any advice guys?
Has anyone refinished their wheels with Prismatic's colors? If so what color did you go with? I would send them right to HRE but the turn around like is pretty lengthy. These I can have back in three days max and it's about 40% of what HRE charges too.
Any advice guys?
Hello Guys,
I just wanted to clear a couple of things up regarding the refinishing of HRE Wheels and forged wheels in general.
One of the main reasons that we recommend that they come into HRE is because many of the refinishing companies out there do not regulate their powder coating temperature. This will greatly reduce the fatigue life and strength of the center. This is the reason that HRE brought all powder coating in house.
Another factor is the stripping of your current finish. Most companies chemical strip the finish which can irreversibly damage a wheel in as little as two minutes. Unless the wheel is Chrome (Different process), HRE will bead blast the wheel to remove any paint or powder coated finish. Excessive heat, or time in the oven, will reduce the strength of a heat treated part and will ultimately result in a premature failure.
Also, part of the labor charge includes all new assembly hardware in the wheels. Other places will not do this. If they do....be very careful.
The statement that HRE will not fix bends is correct. We simply replace the component. The reason for this is simple. There are three ways to straighten a wheel:
First: Heat the rim half and work/form the metal back into a round form. When you heat a heat treated part, it will greatly reduce the integrity of the rim half and you will likely be back in 3-6 mos with a cracked barrel.
Second: Beat the rim back into shape. Most likely you will still have high runout.
Third: This is the most frightening. People will actually put the wheel on a lathe and turn the wheel down until it is true. This will guarantee a failure.
Checking the runout on the bead seat is a great idea prior to shipment. This way if there are any questions we can address them immediately. HRE recommends runouts under .025"
All of our rim components are sourced from two raw material suppliers. We have been using these suppliers for a number of years so there should not be any difference in weight due to variance in production. The only variance on an equal component will be between our HD components that were in use over 7 years ago.
When a wheel is sent to HRE, it is our goal to send a wheel back that is as structurally sound as a brand new wheel. You will also retain your lifetime structural warranty. We cannot provide structural warranties if the wheel has been altered or refinished elsewhere.
We know that we are not the cheapest and that you will also incur shipping charges, but our goal is to provide you with a quality product and to insure your safety.
I hope my response has helped and been informative. If anyone is ever in San Diego, please contact me. We love to show people around our facility and educate people on what and why we do certain things. There's also a good chance I will be able to give you some reasons as to why it's a good reason to send them into us for repairs
Read more: http://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/3...#ixzz3U0wQ1AZF
I just wanted to clear a couple of things up regarding the refinishing of HRE Wheels and forged wheels in general.
One of the main reasons that we recommend that they come into HRE is because many of the refinishing companies out there do not regulate their powder coating temperature. This will greatly reduce the fatigue life and strength of the center. This is the reason that HRE brought all powder coating in house.
Another factor is the stripping of your current finish. Most companies chemical strip the finish which can irreversibly damage a wheel in as little as two minutes. Unless the wheel is Chrome (Different process), HRE will bead blast the wheel to remove any paint or powder coated finish. Excessive heat, or time in the oven, will reduce the strength of a heat treated part and will ultimately result in a premature failure.
Also, part of the labor charge includes all new assembly hardware in the wheels. Other places will not do this. If they do....be very careful.
The statement that HRE will not fix bends is correct. We simply replace the component. The reason for this is simple. There are three ways to straighten a wheel:
First: Heat the rim half and work/form the metal back into a round form. When you heat a heat treated part, it will greatly reduce the integrity of the rim half and you will likely be back in 3-6 mos with a cracked barrel.
Second: Beat the rim back into shape. Most likely you will still have high runout.
Third: This is the most frightening. People will actually put the wheel on a lathe and turn the wheel down until it is true. This will guarantee a failure.
Checking the runout on the bead seat is a great idea prior to shipment. This way if there are any questions we can address them immediately. HRE recommends runouts under .025"
All of our rim components are sourced from two raw material suppliers. We have been using these suppliers for a number of years so there should not be any difference in weight due to variance in production. The only variance on an equal component will be between our HD components that were in use over 7 years ago.
When a wheel is sent to HRE, it is our goal to send a wheel back that is as structurally sound as a brand new wheel. You will also retain your lifetime structural warranty. We cannot provide structural warranties if the wheel has been altered or refinished elsewhere.
We know that we are not the cheapest and that you will also incur shipping charges, but our goal is to provide you with a quality product and to insure your safety.
I hope my response has helped and been informative. If anyone is ever in San Diego, please contact me. We love to show people around our facility and educate people on what and why we do certain things. There's also a good chance I will be able to give you some reasons as to why it's a good reason to send them into us for repairs
Read more: http://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/3...#ixzz3U0wQ1AZF
If it is a simple refinish, I think HRE only charges 100 per wheel.
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HRE will refinish wheels and is the way I would go if the price is anywhere near competitive. HRE warranty will be voided by powder coating and they warn it may impact strength.
http://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/3...ml#post3936764
If it is a simple refinish, I think HRE only charges 100 per wheel.
http://mbworld.org/forums/w211-amg/3...ml#post3936764
If it is a simple refinish, I think HRE only charges 100 per wheel.
That link you provided from 2010 suggest about $275/wheel for a multipiece not including shipping. My experience with after market wheel refinishers is about $250/wheel all inclusive.
The pro of having HRE do it though is it will be done right, it will look like a new wheel from them, and you keep the warranty (probably both the seal and the structural). FWIW, I've had various wheels from different vendors refinished by other vendors and they never looked perfect. I always had one issue or another. As always you get what you pay for.
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Contrary to what has been said or told, we perform all refinishing in-house. And we prefer not to provide powder information as that is confidential.
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