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Old Apr 30, 2015 | 12:06 PM
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RPS Formula 1 Style Carbon-Carbon Brake Kit

I was in the market for a Carbon Brake Kit for a while. I heard great things about RPS with there Carbon-Carbon Brake Kit so I gave them a chance. This kit also includes carbon brake pads as well. Evoms and RPS worked together to fit a 380mm rotor upfront with an 18" wheel. I stopped from 219.2mph this past weekend and had zero fade. It's a good amount lighter than PCCB as well. I saved almost 70lbs of rotating mass with the carbon pads. No chipping or wearing like PCCB as well. The price was not bad either. Evoms sells this kit for $11,000 plus install. Evoms has the exclusive rights to sell for RPS in the porsche platform. Only downside to these is that you can not drive them in the rain. My car doesn't see rain so there is not a problem for me.

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Why can't they go in the rain?
 
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Why can't they go in the rain?
Pure Carbon.
 
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Most likely they need to be heated up to stop well and the rain keeps them cool. My PCCB work fine in wet, but are awesome in the dry. I can feel the difference.
 
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Why can't they go in the rain?
they soak up water when they get wet and you cant really stop until they are dry. otherwise they are a sick option for a car like this.
 
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Originally Posted by yumaverick
Pure Carbon.
A lot of cars have pure carbon rotors from the factory and have no issues in rain. Every ferrari, lamborghini, and corvette zr1/zo6 falls into this category.

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Most likely they need to be heated up to stop well and the rain keeps them cool. My PCCB work fine in wet, but are awesome in the dry. I can feel the difference.
True but they could still be driven in the rain

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they soak up water when they get wet and you cant really stop until they are dry. otherwise they are a sick option for a car like this.
This makes sense^. But this was a limitation of carbon rotors years ago. This is strange. I would have gotten the MovIT rotors.
 
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Originally Posted by speedsterr
A lot of cars have pure carbon rotors from the factory and have no issues in rain. Every ferrari, lamborghini, and corvette zr1/zo6 falls into this category.



True but they could still be driven in the rain



This makes sense^. But this was a limitation of carbon rotors years ago. This is strange. I would have gotten the MovIT rotors.
Movit are just repackaged Surface Transform brakes. May as well buy them straight from ST's website. Not cheap though at £4000 + 20% VAT front and rear excluding pads (and maybe callipers if needed). I think they've go it really wrong trying to compete with OEM Brembo price points even if they do have a few USPS. £10000 + ($16000) for carbon brakes is just nuts when you can buy GiroDiscs/RS29s for 1/5 of the price.
 
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Movit are just repackaged Surface Transform brakes. May as well buy them straight from ST's website. Not cheap though at £4000 + 20% VAT front and rear excluding pads (and maybe callipers if needed). I think they've go it really wrong trying to compete with OEM Brembo price points even if they do have a few USPS. £10000 + ($16000) for carbon brakes is just nuts when you can buy GiroDiscs/RS29s for 1/5 of the price.
Idk...They PMed me once and offered a full set with everything to me for 11k. I still think 11k is too high.

Honestly ceramics should be like 7-8k at this point. If that.
 
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Idk...They PMed me once and offered a full set with everything to me for 11k. I still think 11k is too high.

Honestly ceramics should be like 7-8k at this point. If that.
Movit or ST and can you remember what was included as some of these ceramic discs do not fit with normal OEM 997 turbo callipers? Is the dollars or pounds? I agree with you re price point. They've got it completely wrong.
 
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Sick looking set up... can't they do the old abrasive interface for wet weather like they did on the old 1970s V8 Group cars ?
 
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These are awesome! Thanks for sharing.
The would however be an absolute FAIL in Vancouver, Canada... living in a rain forrest :P
 
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Curious. The caliper is in a different position in the photos and I noticed in your shift sector photos the front caliper is on the bottom.

Is there an advantage in that??
 
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Re: speedsterr: "A lot of cars have pure carbon rotors from the factory...".
Beg to differ. PCCB's, and the ones cited are not "pure carbon". They are a carbon matrix treated with a ceramic coating. The "cooking" of the discs takes a very very long time, using huge amounts of fuel (electric or gas), and are then finish-machined individually. Expensive process. At some point, hopefully soon, a larger-scale, less "fussy" process will appear.

Interesting to note these discs seem to be made of mechanically fastened segments..riveted?
 
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Re: speedsterr: "A lot of cars have pure carbon rotors from the factory...".
Beg to differ. PCCB's, and the ones cited are not "pure carbon". They are a carbon matrix treated with a ceramic coating. The "cooking" of the discs takes a very very long time, using huge amounts of fuel (electric or gas), and are then finish-machined individually. Expensive process. At some point, hopefully soon, a larger-scale, less "fussy" process will appear.

Interesting to note these discs seem to be made of mechanically fastened segments..riveted?
I agree. I'm don't know of any production cars with pure carbon brakes.
 
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Originally Posted by speedsterr
A lot of cars have pure carbon rotors from the factory and have no issues in rain. Every ferrari, lamborghini, and corvette zr1/zo6 falls into this category.



True but they could still be driven in the rain



This makes sense^. But this was a limitation of carbon rotors years ago. This is strange. I would have gotten the MovIT rotors.
Movit are not pure carbon. They are carbon ceramic.
 


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