I know the math is simple, but having had a 6 speed and the newest PDK, there is no question which is the fastest. I'm not going to sell my "pedal and row" but I will forever respect the tech and development of the PDK.

YMMV, but this is the truth. This is no neg on Porsche. In fact it is a kudo.

 

Curious , how does the panamera compare to the 997 turbo in terms of power ?

 

No news here....

 

No news, but just trying to be another voice reinforcing it to those who haven't experienced it. Frankly, the PTT is just rediculous in terms of power. I couldn't imagine it with 1,000 pounds off and in the nimble body of the 997.

I've been told I couldn't beat a new GTS PDK with my 07 TT. I'm sure it is true. Almost traded for a red 15 in Memphis but couldn't let go ...

 

Stock for stock or even mildly modified no one would ever argue.

Although, add some modifications and the PDK car falls far into the distance ;p

 

How much power can the PDK tranny hold?

 

No question the PDK is much faster and a lot more accurate. But, you're giving-up the sports-car feel and driver connection that shifting the gears brings. However, 25-years from now it won't matter because no one will know how to drive a manual anyway and most gas-powered P-cars with manuals will be collectors. JMO

 

No question about that, spot on.

 

For me, two things determined my preference for a manual vs an automatic, how often I drive the particular car and my age. All my cars were manual years ago and I drove them daily. How I love the PDK in traffic as a daily driver at my current older age.

 

Are you saying that if you do the exact same aftermarket modifications, the manual trans car will be faster?

 

No I am saying if I do turbos, intercoolers, and E85 that the manual car will be faster because you run out of fuel WAY before then.

 

It might be faster above a certain speed. So here's when I was around 600 wheel racing a 997.1 (Anthony's old Switzer E911 set up) making 830 wheel. Even though he got the hit and has 230 more wheel HP, I caught him and he didn't really pull until just before the end at around 145mph.

So if you are going for triple digit speeds then yeah the 6MT should have an advantage with 200 more HP. But from a dig or anything below 100mph the PDK car will win.

 

Longborder, I really believe something was up with Anthony's car in that roll on, not sure if tuning related, mechanical or driver or a combo of things. We have run our manual 3076 car at 700awhp/625awtq back months ago (Mustang numbers, less than 830 Dynojet) against a very similarly equipped if not the same 997.2 PDK and even with the 68s on the car, intercoolers, y-pipe, plenum, giac 68s race map and race gas on the car the 997.1 manual 3076 car was faster and the roll ons didn't look like the vid you showed.

In any case, Anthony's car is a completely different beast now and he'd put on some major hurting on our insignificant and slow little stock motor setup

Dzenno@PTF

 

First I don't agree he got the hit, he hit it but then quickly let off. But....as I said you lost and you are out of the ability to go higher. Anthony is now 1000hp higher than that car was....so again, three pedals can be faster than 2!

Of course a PDK is faster from a dig

 

Roughly 700whp.