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#32
Matt from Guard told me a couple months ago that they are finally going to make the 997TT box gears. Probably late spring.
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997TT SlowBerry - 205.0 mph 1/2 Mile WR Nov 2018, 9.7 @ 170 mph 1/4 Mile , 3.2 60-130 mph , 2.4 100-150 mph , 1420whp E85
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997TT SilverSpool - 210.8 mph 1/2 Mile WR Apr 2019, 9.2 @ 168 mph 1/4 Mile Manual World Record , 3.15 60-130 mph , 2.72 100-150 mph , 1400whp E85
996TT SpoolBus - 204.6 mph 1/2 Mile 996TT WR Aug 2018, 9.5 @ 154 mph, 3.23 60-130 mph, 2.5 100-150 mph Manual Porsche World Record, 1400whp E85
997TT SlowBerry - 205.0 mph 1/2 Mile WR Nov 2018, 9.7 @ 170 mph 1/4 Mile , 3.2 60-130 mph , 2.4 100-150 mph , 1420whp E85
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#34
yes some people have.
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996TT SpoolBus - 204.6 mph 1/2 Mile 996TT WR Aug 2018, 9.5 @ 154 mph, 3.23 60-130 mph, 2.5 100-150 mph Manual Porsche World Record, 1400whp E85
997TT SlowBerry - 205.0 mph 1/2 Mile WR Nov 2018, 9.7 @ 170 mph 1/4 Mile , 3.2 60-130 mph , 2.4 100-150 mph , 1420whp E85
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997TT SilverSpool - 210.8 mph 1/2 Mile WR Apr 2019, 9.2 @ 168 mph 1/4 Mile Manual World Record , 3.15 60-130 mph , 2.72 100-150 mph , 1400whp E85
996TT SpoolBus - 204.6 mph 1/2 Mile 996TT WR Aug 2018, 9.5 @ 154 mph, 3.23 60-130 mph, 2.5 100-150 mph Manual Porsche World Record, 1400whp E85
997TT SlowBerry - 205.0 mph 1/2 Mile WR Nov 2018, 9.7 @ 170 mph 1/4 Mile , 3.2 60-130 mph , 2.4 100-150 mph , 1420whp E85
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#35
how are the results? i know hollinger and tip guys get great 60ft times would love to see 6sp guys dip into those 1.4's to be competitive
#36
agreed!
#40
I have a ERP Triple that I purchased for that reason, so I can slip it without breaking loose or shocking my drivetrain, but between the 1" travel of this clutch, the forever altering clutch engagements points of the stock hyrolics and my Sport Cup's lack of traction in 1st and beginning of 2nd..... I get very frustrated!!
To get consistent 1.4's what is the hardware needed outside of talent.
I.e. R888, GT2 clutch slave, axels etc
I would just be happy with a 1.6-1.7 on the street forget 1.4's.
A well prepped track is a lot different from the ever changing streets.
There must me system like the DCS dynamic suspension technology, but for launching as it reads slip and adjust the throttle within milliseconds to avoid wheels spin etc.
Why can't a company come up with the same technology that the new 997.2-991 have for amazing launch control that lets them cut 1.4-1.6 on regular street tires on the STREETS, but for our 997.1 6spd?
The tech is out there we just need a company to put it together for
Now if you have any techniques as well with the right hardware we are all ears!
To get consistent 1.4's what is the hardware needed outside of talent.
I.e. R888, GT2 clutch slave, axels etc
I would just be happy with a 1.6-1.7 on the street forget 1.4's.
A well prepped track is a lot different from the ever changing streets.
There must me system like the DCS dynamic suspension technology, but for launching as it reads slip and adjust the throttle within milliseconds to avoid wheels spin etc.
Why can't a company come up with the same technology that the new 997.2-991 have for amazing launch control that lets them cut 1.4-1.6 on regular street tires on the STREETS, but for our 997.1 6spd?
The tech is out there we just need a company to put it together for
Now if you have any techniques as well with the right hardware we are all ears!
Great results so far!! Hopefully with a built box in there you can really push it!
The hollinger is just a 6 speed with sequential shifting.
Getting it to actually 60ft is no different to getting a non sequential 6 speed to 60ft.
It takes a hell of a lot of time and effort to get it right, but once done right, consistent 1.4's are not an issue...
The hollinger is just a 6 speed with sequential shifting.
Getting it to actually 60ft is no different to getting a non sequential 6 speed to 60ft.
It takes a hell of a lot of time and effort to get it right, but once done right, consistent 1.4's are not an issue...
Last edited by Bobbyfali; 12-23-2016 at 12:26 AM.
#41
[QUOTE=Why can't a company come up with the same technology that the new 997.2-991 have for amazing launch control that lets them cut 1.4-1.6 on regular street tires on the STREETS, but for our 997.1 6spd?[/QUOTE]
You need a standalone ecu in order to get this kind of performance only then you will have the ability to constantly adjust boost and traction/speed to the pavement/tires.
Been there done that with the o.e.m ecu with every shape or form of tuning on stock internals/fbo and with a full build but it is limited so you dont have many choices if you want to shine in this field...
Talk with Garth.
You need a standalone ecu in order to get this kind of performance only then you will have the ability to constantly adjust boost and traction/speed to the pavement/tires.
Been there done that with the o.e.m ecu with every shape or form of tuning on stock internals/fbo and with a full build but it is limited so you dont have many choices if you want to shine in this field...
Talk with Garth.
#42
[QUOTE=The hollinger is just a 6 speed with sequential shifting.
Getting it to actually 60ft is no different to getting a non sequential 6 speed to 60ft.[/QUOTE]
I have to disagree.
There is a major difference between the boxes as the holinger box. Regardless of the similarity off the line using the clutch the holinger have the significant upper hand with the ability/flexibility to choose a longer 1st gear ratio (among other gears) and by doing so the lunch is more controllable with respect to how much speed you are gaining while using the thrust from the torque created due to the actual load on the engine, while with the o.e.m box with the super short 1st ratio you can't get neither much boost or significant torque before you are at red line... especially with larger turbos/non VTG.
Getting it to actually 60ft is no different to getting a non sequential 6 speed to 60ft.[/QUOTE]
I have to disagree.
There is a major difference between the boxes as the holinger box. Regardless of the similarity off the line using the clutch the holinger have the significant upper hand with the ability/flexibility to choose a longer 1st gear ratio (among other gears) and by doing so the lunch is more controllable with respect to how much speed you are gaining while using the thrust from the torque created due to the actual load on the engine, while with the o.e.m box with the super short 1st ratio you can't get neither much boost or significant torque before you are at red line... especially with larger turbos/non VTG.
#43
I have to disagree.
There is a major difference between the boxes as the holinger box. Regardless of the similarity off the line using the clutch the holinger have the significant upper hand with the ability/flexibility to choose a longer 1st gear ratio (among other gears) and by doing so the lunch is more controllable with respect to how much speed you are gaining while using the thrust from the torque created due to the actual load on the engine, while with the o.e.m box with the super short 1st ratio you can't get neither much boost or significant torque before you are at red line... especially with larger turbos/non VTG.
There is a major difference between the boxes as the holinger box. Regardless of the similarity off the line using the clutch the holinger have the significant upper hand with the ability/flexibility to choose a longer 1st gear ratio (among other gears) and by doing so the lunch is more controllable with respect to how much speed you are gaining while using the thrust from the torque created due to the actual load on the engine, while with the o.e.m box with the super short 1st ratio you can't get neither much boost or significant torque before you are at red line... especially with larger turbos/non VTG.
100%. The first gear on 997tt is a joke, it works at stock power "peppy" "fun" but even at e85 upgraded vtg's its over before any real boost is built. I have seen a few guys with stock boxes and 900-1100hp and they either miss shift 2nd, or just roll into first, shift and then go WOT due the the crappy 1st thats unusable. and then of course you drop all boost during shifts.
#44
I agree 1st gear is pretty steep, but assuming you run boost vs mph you can dial in the torque some what, and 1st gear being so steep lets you launch at a low RPM (building boost on antilag) and then "pull out of the bog". My bigger issue is keep the car under control on a flat foot 1-2 shift since it comes so early, it spins the tires pretty good.
#45
He doesn't do them for the 997TT box, because there are no aftermarket gears available. I have been hounding Matt from Guard to build the gears for 2 years now, he finally started the process.
Bill Rader Holinger sequential is really not quiet the same thing as a regular 997tt H patter trans. You simply cannot accomplish the same thing with a regular 997 box as a sequential..... that is why guys pay the big bucks for it
Bill Rader Holinger sequential is really not quiet the same thing as a regular 997tt H patter trans. You simply cannot accomplish the same thing with a regular 997 box as a sequential..... that is why guys pay the big bucks for it
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997TT SilverSpool - 210.8 mph 1/2 Mile WR Apr 2019, 9.2 @ 168 mph 1/4 Mile Manual World Record , 3.15 60-130 mph , 2.72 100-150 mph , 1400whp E85
996TT SpoolBus - 204.6 mph 1/2 Mile 996TT WR Aug 2018, 9.5 @ 154 mph, 3.23 60-130 mph, 2.5 100-150 mph Manual Porsche World Record, 1400whp E85
997TT SlowBerry - 205.0 mph 1/2 Mile WR Nov 2018, 9.7 @ 170 mph 1/4 Mile , 3.2 60-130 mph , 2.4 100-150 mph , 1420whp E85
ESMOTOR | DO88 | TPC DSC | SYVECS | COBB | IPD | KLINE | XONA | AMS | ID | ERP | SACHS | TURBOSMART | CSF | DODSON |
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997TT SilverSpool - 210.8 mph 1/2 Mile WR Apr 2019, 9.2 @ 168 mph 1/4 Mile Manual World Record , 3.15 60-130 mph , 2.72 100-150 mph , 1400whp E85
996TT SpoolBus - 204.6 mph 1/2 Mile 996TT WR Aug 2018, 9.5 @ 154 mph, 3.23 60-130 mph, 2.5 100-150 mph Manual Porsche World Record, 1400whp E85
997TT SlowBerry - 205.0 mph 1/2 Mile WR Nov 2018, 9.7 @ 170 mph 1/4 Mile , 3.2 60-130 mph , 2.4 100-150 mph , 1420whp E85
ESMOTOR | DO88 | TPC DSC | SYVECS | COBB | IPD | KLINE | XONA | AMS | ID | ERP | SACHS | TURBOSMART | CSF | DODSON |