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Old Jan 26, 2007 | 09:49 PM
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The only thing I hate about PCCB is that it costs $17K to retrofit them...
 
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 10:13 PM
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Although I have heard of ceramics cracking with a wheel/tire change, how likely is this really?

I ask because I always get a set of winter wheels/tires and therefore change twice a year...
 
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris from Cali
The only thing I hate about PCCB is that it costs $17K to retrofit them...
That's for non-Turbo/GT3 kit. They're slightly smaller from what I understand. If you want to get the GT3/TT PCCBs, there's no kit for that yet. A friend with steel rotors wanted to upgrade his to PCCBs and was shocked to find out that it'd cost him around $34k for just the parts!
 
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 10:32 PM
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That's for non-Turbo/GT3 kit. They're slightly smaller from what I understand. If you want to get the GT3/TT PCCBs, there's no kit for that yet. A friend with steel rotors wanted to upgrade his to PCCBs and was shocked to find out that it'd cost him around $34k for just the parts!
Yeah, I have a Carrera S and that was one of the first things I checked... $17K or $34K doesn't matter. Too much $$. I could do a Brembo Indy setup for that or cheaper.
 
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 10:59 PM
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I upgraded to PCCB's on the tt for $17.5K, parts, tax, and labor (at the dealership).
 
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 11:02 PM
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I upgraded to PCCB's on the tt for $17.5K, parts, tax, and labor (at the dealership).
OUCH.... I couldn't bear the pain.
 
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 11:07 PM
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Just a little sting. Like a flu shot. Dissipates quickly after use. Man up!
 
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Originally Posted by fdb996c2
I upgraded to PCCB's on the tt for $17.5K, parts, tax, and labor (at the dealership).
Bummer.

Judging from some of the posts in this thread, it sounds like you would have been better off spending your money mounting spider monkeys at all four corners, with their *** cheeks spread over the steel discs, and a little LCD screen in front of each of their faces that lights up with a picture of Scott in H-town every time you hit the brakes, so that they immediately clamp their *** cheeks shut hard to prevent forced entry again . . .
 
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Just a little sting. Like a flu shot. Dissipates quickly after use. Man up!
Maybe when it's time to replace the discs... I will want to hear my $$$ every time those bad boys squeak and grumble. Congrats!
 
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 11:12 PM
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I dont see why this would even be an issue, for about $3-$4 you can buy some armor all, eagle one, mothers or and brand of wheels cleanerthat are safe for painted wheels and clear coat and spray it on, rinse off in a couple of minutes and not spend one minute wiping the wheels except to dry. and for the money you spend for PCCB I would rather buy a lifetime supply of wheel cleaner and have some $$$ left over.

Not saying PCCB's arent worth the money, just that brake dust shouldnt be a factor.
 
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Originally Posted by MexicoBlue
Bummer.

Judging from some of the posts in this thread, it sounds like you would have been better off spending your money mounting spider monkeys at all four corners, with their *** cheeks spread over the steel discs, and a little LCD screen in front of each of their faces that lights up with a picture of Scott in H-town every time you hit the brakes, so that they immediately clamp their *** cheeks shut hard to prevent forced entry again . . .
Now that is funny ROFL
 
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Originally Posted by MexicoBlue
Bummer.

Judging from some of the posts in this thread, it sounds like you would have been better off spending your money mounting spider monkeys at all four corners, with their *** cheeks spread over the steel discs, and a little LCD screen in front of each of their faces that lights up with a picture of Scott in H-town every time you hit the brakes, so that they immediately clamp their *** cheeks shut hard to prevent forced entry again . . .
Actually, I think that's the $34K option. Too rich for my blood.
 
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I dont see why this would even be an issue, for about $3-$4 you can buy some armor all, eagle one, mothers or and brand of wheels cleanerthat are safe for painted wheels and clear coat and spray it on, rinse off in a couple of minutes and not spend one minute wiping the wheels except to dry. and for the money you spend for PCCB I would rather buy a lifetime supply of wheel cleaner and have some $$$ left over.

Not saying PCCB's arent worth the money, just that brake dust shouldnt be a factor.
I never minded minded cleaning my wheels. It was just a pleasant surprise when I realized I no longer needed to.
 
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Screw cleaning your wheels, get some spider monkeys and a whip and whack them asses until they get it lickety clean.
 
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great writeup...thanks

[quote=treynor]Think of it this way - the braking system is only as strong as its weakest link. From 60 MPH with an otherwise-normal braking system, both a steel-rotor and PCCB-rotor 997 can lock all 4 tires solid, and more to the point can keep all 4 tires at the limit of adhesion all the way down to 0 mph. Thus, even a hypothetical infinitely-powerful braking system (or "IPBS") would be no better - you are limited by tire traction and the car's setup. In general, in street situations, even a moderately good brake setup will give you all the braking power you will ever need.

Can understand some of what you say. However, take my earlier '03 vette. I was unhappy with the braking power, so I got some softer pads (so-called police issue type pads). Now the vette stops in shorter distances. Also with Porsches, putting on "softer, more grippy" Brembo pads will stop the Porsche in a shorter distance than the factory pads. When I was going to order the ceramics, the dealer said the factory-pads for street-driving were not as good as the new softer pads that Porsche recommends for street driving. dealer assured me that factory pads found with ceramics are mainly for the track where excess repeated braking is common. If what you are saying is true, why do these "more grippy" pads stop porsches, etc in shorter distances?? Appreciate your input because soon I will be installing some more responsive (for shorter distance stops) Brembo pads on my '07tt.
 


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