I agree he sounds like a real fricking blow hard to me.

I have the plenum among many other mods as you can see in my signature and I am just ecstatic how well the car runs.

 

I have the IBD plenum on my Turbo am am very happy with it. Although my car is a forced induction (Werks1) I did notice a change when adding the plenum.

I am however in the process of my next and final engine project which is the Evoms 700 upgrade . I am not sure whether the plenum will be removed as those decisions I will leave up to the technicians .

 

He's probably too busy claiming his diet cokes in fact contain no calories or that the tee shirts he wears in fact are made of 100% cotton. What a strange post!

 

damn if I knew I can get all these perks by thrashing the product maybe I should start a thread too

I had to pay for mine retail price.

 

Pathetic.
Seems the only truths now are, "Death, Taxes, and the Plenum Debate". Oh, and that the site moderators are asleep.

To the nay sayers: you've got a no risk trial, nothing to lose whatsoever, and a wonderful firm behind it willing to refund your money if not totally satisfied.

I cannot see one single reason NOT to give it a shot. I was lucky enough to buy it via the group buy with RSS, and it ain't comin' out of my car.

 

There are moderators on this site? How does the spam keep coming back and not get fried in a the first hour it is up?

If the site moderators are too busy I will volunteer to be one!

 

Advertisers should ask that question.

 

I agree the moderators should not allow these kinds of posts and they should also not allow advertisers or manufactures to post test data against competitors. I own a mfg company and if I wanted to I could test my competitors product and make sure it failed! It is the forum members job to report their findings and experiences.
With that said, mod's please don't take this down because I think there is some good info coming out of this.

 

Why shoud a moderator stop a thread like this? Free flowing opinions, ideas and facts is what a good forum is all about.

What some people will not accept about dyno results is that there are numerious conditions that are not controlled or accounted for. Some of these include oil temperature and transmission fluid temperature. The temperature of these fluids can account for as much as 10 - 15% of the recorded power to the wheels.

Therefore, if you were to run 2 - 3 dynos on your stock car that has been warmed up only about 30 minutes, the dyno results will be greatly different than if you had warmed it up for an hour. Coolant temperture is also another condition that effects a computer controlled engine which is not accounted for in determining dyno results.

Tire pressure and temperature, size and weight also play a key riole in dyno results. The difference in load because of tiedowns also effects results as will the psition of all the fans including angle and distance from car. Turn the fan that is blowing on the engine by 15 degrees and watch your dyno numbers change.

There are dozens of other variables that are not accounted for when comparing dyno results. Bottom line is, dyno results can vary as much as 20+% on the same dyno depending on conditions. Run your car on a dyno after warming it up for 15 minutes and, keeping the engine idling, wash your front windshield. Within 5 minutes of running the first dyno, run it again. You'll be amazed how much more power you have now that your windshield is clean.

Then there is the obvious problem with dyno results which are the dishonest people who deliberately show invalid results.

 

So are saying the butt dyno is a more accurate testing device?

 

Would you rather drive a car that performs the way you want or have a dyno chart in the glove box that shows that you have 1000 rwhp but the car does not perfrom the way you want?

 

I really hope you are the chick in your avatar because that would explain the lacking of ***** you have. You call GMP out and they respond , your excuse is you don't have the time, you have plenty of time bashing them on this forum.

If you knew you were correct you would meet with them at the dyno, you have everything to gain and nothing to lose

Christian

 

I think we should just let this fizle away. What's one more dyno going to prove? Seems we have several results both ways - adding another one to one side or the other isn't likely to solve much imho.

 

I couldn't agree with you more. A while back I had the Ruf S/C conversion done on a C4S and I kept getting requests for before and after dynos - I'm assuming the reasons for the requests was disbelief of the Ruf claims and/or comparisons to Evo, etc. But I could care less about HP claims - the car performed the way I wanted it to.

 

I'm all for a car that performs well, I am not a poser, I drive a Porsche for it's drivabilty. I have seen a number of people post butt dyno feedback only to get flamed. I like the dyno info to prove that my butt has not insulated it's self with too much fat to provide accurate and consistant info.