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Old May 21, 2008 | 08:42 AM
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How is the resonance at freeway speeds in sixth? I looked at Borlas when I had my viper and opinions seemed to be uniform that quality was top notch, and at WOT it sounded frickin' BAD ***, however, I ultimately went with the Corsa, because after riding in cars with each, the Corsa had less of the "drone" at freeway speeds. Now I realize this is a completely different product for a different car but would be interested to know how the Borla sounds when you're just cruising along and my wife is trying to have a conversation with me.
 
Old May 21, 2008 | 08:52 AM
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How is the resonance at freeway speeds in sixth? I looked at Borlas when I had my viper and opinions seemed to be uniform that quality was top notch, and at WOT it sounded frickin' BAD ***, however, I ultimately went with the Corsa, because after riding in cars with each, the Corsa had less of the "drone" at freeway speeds. Now I realize this is a completely different product for a different car but would be interested to know how the Borla sounds when you're just cruising along and my wife is trying to have a conversation with me.
I'm with you, I'd like to know how the Borla sounds at freeway speeds.
FWIW, I had a 2002 330Ci and it had a B&B exhaust. That was too loud it interfered with conversation at freeway speeds. My next vehicle was a 2004 M3. I also got a 2004 Tahoe. I installed Borla's on both and it was perfect.
Great sound while not being instrusive at freeway speeds. I'm hopeful the Borla for the 997 C2S will be the same.
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Old May 21, 2008 | 08:54 AM
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My combination of AWE headers and cats with a Remus muffler works perfect for all around performance with out drone and excess noise.
 
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Originally Posted by mjguflaw
How is the resonance at freeway speeds in sixth? I looked at Borlas when I had my viper and opinions seemed to be uniform that quality was top notch, and at WOT it sounded frickin' BAD ***, however, I ultimately went with the Corsa, because after riding in cars with each, the Corsa had less of the "drone" at freeway speeds. Now I realize this is a completely different product for a different car but would be interested to know how the Borla sounds when you're just cruising along and my wife is trying to have a conversation with me.
At highway speeds there is no resonance and you could easily carry on a conversation with your passenger or talk with a client on your cell phone. Our exhaust note has a somewhat euro sound, but is a little deeper. We realize sound is one of the most subjective experiences while driving. Although we believe our sound is the best, we are not so arrogant as to think everyone will love our exhaust note. And that’s alright with us. Our company’s legacy started 30 years ago with Alex Borla bringing his racing experiences in 356A Porsches into the aftermarket exhaust business. Today, we make our exhaust for the 997S enthusiast who doesn't want the loud sound of an overbearing bark, but prefers a subtle growl instead.

With regard to cabin sound, our system does have a hint of resonance around 1800 rpms. If you intentionally lug the engine through this small part of the rpm band, you can hear it a little more. However, most drivers do not lug their engines and accelerate through this part of the rpm band in any gear. We like to take into consideration the entire equation: the high output of the 997S’ engine, the short range of resonance, the overall throatier exhaust note, and the performance gains from our system. With all these factors at play, we believe the small amount of resonance is far outweighed by our exhaust’s overall durability, sound, and performance benefits. Please let me know if you have any other questions & thanks for your interest!
 
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Anyone has sound clip or video of borla exhaust on 997 beside the one already up, please post them! It is really hard to find the clips anywhere
 
Old May 21, 2008 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Kriggans
At highway speeds there is no resonance and you could easily carry on a conversation with your passenger or talk with a client on your cell phone. Our exhaust note has a somewhat euro sound, but is a little deeper. We realize sound is one of the most subjective experiences while driving. Although we believe our sound is the best, we are not so arrogant as to think everyone will love our exhaust note. And that’s alright with us. Our company’s legacy started 30 years ago with Alex Borla bringing his racing experiences in 356A Porsches into the aftermarket exhaust business. Today, we make our exhaust for the 997S enthusiast who doesn't want the loud sound of an overbearing bark, but prefers a subtle growl instead.

With regard to cabin sound, our system does have a hint of resonance around 1800 rpms. If you intentionally lug the engine through this small part of the rpm band, you can hear it a little more. However, most drivers do not lug their engines and accelerate through this part of the rpm band in any gear. We like to take into consideration the entire equation: the high output of the 997S’ engine, the short range of resonance, the overall throatier exhaust note, and the performance gains from our system. With all these factors at play, we believe the small amount of resonance is far outweighed by our exhaust’s overall durability, sound, and performance benefits. Please let me know if you have any other questions & thanks for your interest!
I had this on my car and its spot on. The resonance is not noticeable. You rarely every are in that part of the range. Sounds most like a Tubi,except more raw and mean.
 
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I had this on my car and its spot on. The resonance is not noticeable. You rarely every are in that part of the range. Sounds most like a Tubi,except more raw and mean.
What did you have, just exhaust, or exhaust + headers??
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What did you have, just exhaust, or exhaust + headers??
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I had the Borla header/exhaust combo. Car was completely stock otherwise.
 
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I had the Borla header/exhaust combo. Car was completely stock otherwise.
I think I'm going to order headers & exhaust.
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Sounds great in video!

I've liked the Borla systems on everything EXCEPT the E46 M. Go figure, can't stand it on my coworkers '04
 
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Just search 997 Borla, and there are about 6 clips of my car I posted up.
 
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Sounds great in video!

I've liked the Borla systems on everything EXCEPT the E46 M. Go figure, can't stand it on my coworkers '04
I had a 2004 M3 before the C2S and it had a Borla. The Borla was MUCH better than the raspy stock exhaust.
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I think I'm going to order headers & exhaust.
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Great choice. I absolutely loved it.
 
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I loved my Borla on my E46 M3, of course it also had Supersprint headers, 100 cell count metallic cats as well as the Supersprint xpipe with no resonator. Here is the youtube video of it...I was shocked it had a 4.5 rating
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_xf8gxlCaCU

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I loved my Borla on my E46 M3, of course it also had Supersprint headers, 100 cell count metallic cats as well as the Supersprint xpipe with no resonator. Here is the youtube video of it...I was shocked it had a 4.5 rating
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_xf8gxlCaCU
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What do you mean 4.5 rating??
What's the frame of reference??
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