Highest horsepower NA 997
#1
Highest horsepower NA 997
Hey guys, after a couple searches I couldn't come up with anything on the topic, but I'm curious as to what the most whp our 997's are making and with what mods. Dyno sheets would be highly appreciated obviously to prove your claim. I figure the farthest I will go with my car engine and exhaust wise will be intake plenum, full exhaust, and intake and I would like to get an idea of what people are making with similar setups. Thanks for the help -Adam
#2
Hey Adam,
I'm fastening my chinstrap in preparation for reading the responses your question will garner!
You'll hear anything and everything, and you can wade through it as you wish. I suspect you'll hear anything from (based off of an C2S at 355) 355 up through 415. I cannot personally imagine anything more than 390 without major engine changes, such as boring out the cylinders, changing rods, adding meth (colder air) to the intake air, etc. But people will post dyno sheets "proving" their gains, and I look forward to seeing them, should be interesting.
With all the mods I have (just about everything possible for hp gain other than forced induction), I'm interested in seeing what comes back.
CATTMAN
I'm fastening my chinstrap in preparation for reading the responses your question will garner!
You'll hear anything and everything, and you can wade through it as you wish. I suspect you'll hear anything from (based off of an C2S at 355) 355 up through 415. I cannot personally imagine anything more than 390 without major engine changes, such as boring out the cylinders, changing rods, adding meth (colder air) to the intake air, etc. But people will post dyno sheets "proving" their gains, and I look forward to seeing them, should be interesting.
With all the mods I have (just about everything possible for hp gain other than forced induction), I'm interested in seeing what comes back.
CATTMAN
#6
In all seriousness. My belief is 385hp is quite easily reached from a stock 355 997.1S with basic bolt-ons (intake, headers, cats, stoftware tune). With some clever tuning and some advanced mods (X51 manifold, GT3 TB) you might be able to squeeze out another few Hp's at the top end. 390Hp at the crank is probably the upper limit though. The next logical step would then be to start reducing the weight of the car.
Jason
#7
385hp (crank) is about the most we've seen... Put in a LWF whatever you do (you won't see that on a dyno) and it'll improve acceleration etc...
Last edited by sharkster; 10-07-2009 at 12:08 AM.
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#8
I would like to see that recipe... thats well over 400hp at the crank
Mod list please!
Jason
#9
I assume that was a misstatement but it does highlight a problem. The numbers being requested are crank hp (e.g. 355). Wheel dynos measure RW(or AW) HP numbers. There is no (known) constant for power losses in the drivetrain, just estimates. Since we're looking for changes in as little as 5 hp (for example the 385 versus 390 numbers at stated) that variance and more can be explained in computing the drivetrain loss incorrectly. That combined with the variance in dynos makes all this a bit of a work and numbers game.
But at least we should be quoting dyno (or acceleration-derived) RW (or AW) HP numbers. They are the ones that count, no?
But at least we should be quoting dyno (or acceleration-derived) RW (or AW) HP numbers. They are the ones that count, no?
#12
LWFW and cats made the biggest impact on my S car. But as is noted, however, what they (and all my other mods, including the TT wheels and shifter, LOL!) add up to.
CATTMAN
#14
There are lengthy threads about this on the rennlist 997 forum. A search would be worth the trouble.
My 2S pulled 321 rwhp on AWE's Mustang dyno. Equipped with AWE headers, catalytics & mufflers; Evo airbox and GIAC reflash. With drivetrain loss correction factor of 15% (divide rwhp by .85), this could be 380+ cshp, 25 more than stock.
Cost, installed, around $6000+. Modifications on normally aspirated 997's don't give good bang for the buck, but there is no other reasonable way than forced induction.
My 2S pulled 321 rwhp on AWE's Mustang dyno. Equipped with AWE headers, catalytics & mufflers; Evo airbox and GIAC reflash. With drivetrain loss correction factor of 15% (divide rwhp by .85), this could be 380+ cshp, 25 more than stock.
Cost, installed, around $6000+. Modifications on normally aspirated 997's don't give good bang for the buck, but there is no other reasonable way than forced induction.