997 2005-2012 911 C2, C2S, C4, C4S, GTS, Targa and Cabriolet Model Discussion.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

997 Winter storage question

Thread Tools
 
Rate Thread
 
Old Nov 29, 2009 | 06:11 AM
  #1  
Sweeper's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 200
From: Massachusetts
Rep Power: 30
Sweeper is just really niceSweeper is just really niceSweeper is just really niceSweeper is just really niceSweeper is just really nice
997 Winter storage question

I was wondering if anyone stores their Porsche with a full fuel tank and adding Sta-Bil fuel stabilizer to it? With the crappy gas we get now I'm worried that I'll have a tank of gel by spring. Any thoughts??

Thanks in advance
 
Old Nov 29, 2009 | 06:21 AM
  #2  
Thegman's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 6
From: Naperville, IL
Rep Power: 0
Thegman is infamous around these parts
Absolutely a full tank. Leaves little or no room for condensation to form in the tank. I use Sta-Bil in all my power equipment. It won't hurt the car......
 
Old Nov 29, 2009 | 06:33 AM
  #3  
Sweeper's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 200
From: Massachusetts
Rep Power: 30
Sweeper is just really niceSweeper is just really niceSweeper is just really niceSweeper is just really niceSweeper is just really nice
I use the stuff in my equipment as well, but didn't know how the pcar will handle it. I put it in my 968, but that car will burn bunker oil if i needed it to.
I use AVgas in my race car and was told no need to stabilize it since it has all kinds of crap in it for high altitude use.

Thanks for the answers.
 
Old Nov 29, 2009 | 06:54 AM
  #4  
Ridleyguy's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 113
From: Canada
Rep Power: 22
Ridleyguy is infamous around these parts
From the Manual - Storing your Porsche

Clean your vehicle thoroughly inside and out- side.
Clean the engine compartment. The under carriage and chassis components should be free of dirt and salt deposits.
Fill up the fuel tank.
Change the oil and oil filter, and run the engine for several minutes.

Increase the tire pressure to 58 psi (4 bar). It is not recommended to lift the vehicle, due to the possibility of corrosion on shock absorber piston shafts. The vehicle should be moved slightly, approxi- mately every four weeks, to prevent flat spot on the tires.

Climate control[/B]
The air conditioning system should be in good working condition and fully charged.

Electrical system
Remove the battery from the vehicle and store it in a cool dry place, not on a cement floor. When the battery is disconnected, the alarm system is deactivated.
Recharge the battery every 3 months. If the battery remains in the vehicle with the cables connected, it is necessary to check, remove and recharge the battery every 2-3 weeks. Do not fast charge the battery. Please observe the chapter “BATTERY” on Page 258.

Vehicle interior
The interior must be dry, especially in the area of the floor carpets. The use of drying agents (Silica- Gel) is recommended in vehicles with leather interior and in areas with high humidity. The recommended amount is 3 fabric bags of 1.1 lbs. (500 grams) each placed on the floor carpets. Windows, doors and lids must be closed. The air vents should be opened.
 

Last edited by Ridleyguy; Nov 29, 2009 at 07:02 AM. Reason: format
Old Nov 29, 2009 | 07:07 AM
  #5  
Sweeper's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 200
From: Massachusetts
Rep Power: 30
Sweeper is just really niceSweeper is just really niceSweeper is just really niceSweeper is just really niceSweeper is just really nice
Alot of really good reccomendations here, however I don't remove the Battery. I use a battery tender to maintain the charge all winter long.

I also use the tire cradles to keep the most expensive tires in the world (sarcastic) from flat spotting. THey really work well.

I would love a pre oiller for the engine before start up. Keeps the dreaded bearing ware to a minimum.

Thanks for reading the manual for me:-)
 
Old Nov 29, 2009 | 09:22 AM
  #6  
strife_wy's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 408
From: Toronto
Rep Power: 36
strife_wy has a spectacular aura aboutstrife_wy has a spectacular aura about
I do everything mentioned above except for the pre-oiller...

sweeper - what is that?
 
Old Nov 29, 2009 | 09:27 AM
  #7  
RonCT's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 992
From: CT
Rep Power: 98
RonCT has a reputation beyond reputeRonCT has a reputation beyond reputeRonCT has a reputation beyond reputeRonCT has a reputation beyond reputeRonCT has a reputation beyond reputeRonCT has a reputation beyond reputeRonCT has a reputation beyond reputeRonCT has a reputation beyond reputeRonCT has a reputation beyond reputeRonCT has a reputation beyond reputeRonCT has a reputation beyond repute
Many years now doing the same things: Full tank w/ stabilizer (5 month old gas by the time I start using the car again), inflate tires, Porsche battery tender ($55 from Suncoast), cover. Every 2 weeks I start the car for 10 minutes, roll it a few inches to prevent flat spotting).
 
Old Nov 29, 2009 | 10:35 AM
  #8  
evoviiiyou's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 774
From: Ohio
Rep Power: 57
evoviiiyou is a splendid one to beholdevoviiiyou is a splendid one to beholdevoviiiyou is a splendid one to beholdevoviiiyou is a splendid one to beholdevoviiiyou is a splendid one to beholdevoviiiyou is a splendid one to beholdevoviiiyou is a splendid one to behold
Quick question, when you guys start your cars, and its on a trickle charger, do you disconnect the trickle charger before starting...or just start with the trickle charger active?

Also I always use fuel stabilizer with a fresh tank of gas before she goes away. This is a really helpful thread!
 

Last edited by evoviiiyou; Nov 29, 2009 at 10:40 AM.
Old Nov 29, 2009 | 10:45 AM
  #9  
AJag's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,357
From: Chicagoland
Rep Power: 120
AJag Is a GOD !AJag Is a GOD !AJag Is a GOD !AJag Is a GOD !AJag Is a GOD !AJag Is a GOD !AJag Is a GOD !AJag Is a GOD !AJag Is a GOD !AJag Is a GOD !AJag Is a GOD !
Great thread! Any recommendations on which tire cradle and fuel stabilizer to use?
 
Old Nov 29, 2009 | 10:53 AM
  #10  
Sweeper's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 200
From: Massachusetts
Rep Power: 30
Sweeper is just really niceSweeper is just really niceSweeper is just really niceSweeper is just really niceSweeper is just really nice
Originally Posted by strife_wy
I do everything mentioned above except for the pre-oiller...

sweeper - what is that?
Not promoting anyones product, but check this out. There are many brands.
http://www.smartsynthetics.com/produ...mk01-amk02.htm

I really don't think these cars need them for DD use, but for storage situations they're great. Even starting once a month only make it worse since you're starting a dry engine once a month.

In the race car engine, (True Dry Sump) I loosen the rocker train so the valves aren't moving, remove the spark plugs, pour new oil down through the head into the block, fill the oil filter and most of the lines. I spin the engine on the starter and build the oil pressure so that I see oil pumping to the top of the head. Tighten everthing down and fire her up.
For winterizing:
I completey change the water to antifreeze ( AF not allowed on track), completely FOG ( prevents ring sweep) the engine while hot and loosen the rocker train to sit for the winter


Many have thoughts on this, so please chime in..

Thanks
 
Old Nov 29, 2009 | 11:01 AM
  #11  
Sweeper's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 200
From: Massachusetts
Rep Power: 30
Sweeper is just really niceSweeper is just really niceSweeper is just really niceSweeper is just really niceSweeper is just really nice
I use flat stoppers ( don't know who makes them) for cradles. BEST INVESTMENT
I own 12, Battery tenders I use them on everything from the bobcat to the atv's and motorhome, and all my cars.

I don't really think it matters who makes these things they'll all do what they're supposed to.

I sometimes start on the charger, it really does't matter. Very little of the starter current draw is coming from the tender, they are limited. I try to make a habit of removing it before starting, so I don't drive away with it still attached:-( ( really I didn't do that yesterday!!)
 

Last edited by Sweeper; Nov 29, 2009 at 11:06 AM.
Old Nov 29, 2009 | 11:08 AM
  #12  
AJag's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,357
From: Chicagoland
Rep Power: 120
AJag Is a GOD !AJag Is a GOD !AJag Is a GOD !AJag Is a GOD !AJag Is a GOD !AJag Is a GOD !AJag Is a GOD !AJag Is a GOD !AJag Is a GOD !AJag Is a GOD !AJag Is a GOD !
So if one uses tire cradles, there is no need to roll the car slightly every 2-4 weeks right? Or is there still a chance of flat spots on the tire cradles? Tire pressure should be inflated to max listed on the sidewall?
 
Old Nov 29, 2009 | 11:28 AM
  #13  
Sweeper's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 200
From: Massachusetts
Rep Power: 30
Sweeper is just really niceSweeper is just really niceSweeper is just really niceSweeper is just really niceSweeper is just really nice
Originally Posted by AJag
So if one uses tire cradles, there is no need to roll the car slightly every 2-4 weeks right? Or is there still a chance of flat spots on the tire cradles? Tire pressure should be inflated to max listed on the sidewall?
This what they claim, i never rolled mine and the PS2's were fine for 6 months last winter, I can't say that about the BS's on my other car without cradles. I thought I was in a flintstones mobile, with square wheels.
As long as they aren't on cement all winter, I've heard of a re-actions due to the content of the cement and the rubber compound in the tire. Making them harder and more difficult to remove/reduce the flatspots.

I do inflate them to MAX on side wall or on door jam

GL
 
Old Nov 29, 2009 | 11:31 AM
  #14  
DLJ's Avatar
DLJ
Registered User
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 423
From: British Columbia Canada
Rep Power: 42
DLJ is a splendid one to beholdDLJ is a splendid one to beholdDLJ is a splendid one to beholdDLJ is a splendid one to beholdDLJ is a splendid one to beholdDLJ is a splendid one to beholdDLJ is a splendid one to beholdDLJ is a splendid one to behold
good thread!
 
Old Nov 29, 2009 | 11:35 AM
  #15  
RonCT's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 992
From: CT
Rep Power: 98
RonCT has a reputation beyond reputeRonCT has a reputation beyond reputeRonCT has a reputation beyond reputeRonCT has a reputation beyond reputeRonCT has a reputation beyond reputeRonCT has a reputation beyond reputeRonCT has a reputation beyond reputeRonCT has a reputation beyond reputeRonCT has a reputation beyond reputeRonCT has a reputation beyond reputeRonCT has a reputation beyond repute
I've never had tire cradles and never had flat spotting. I would roll the car whether or not I had cradles anyway. Get it warmed up, in gear, move it a little to loosen things up. So to me buying cradles was throwing money away. For stabilizer, I just got Sta-bil.
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:49 AM.