Well Paddle Shifters are now available across the board on all 911s in Canada.

Does anyone know as of when will the Carrera S Power Kit (AKA X51) will be available in Canada?

Cheers.

 

Yes I heard that all 2010 model Carreras will have Left-downshift, Right-upshift paddles as options.

It means though that they should be able to be retrofitted to pre-2010 model cars. It is even possible to swap the electrical wires connecting to the contacts in the right paddle to upshift when pulling back.

 

I have the paddles and love them . Mine are not the OEM but they work under the same principle (right upshift, left downshift) .

I never disliked the buttons but prefer the paddles . I find it more comfortable and not confusing at all .

X51 is so expensive to add and it's very exclusive but I feel that for the extra money either a Gt3 or Turbo might be the better route --depending on driving preference or priority .

 

Looks like a good response from Porsche to offer the paddles. There seems to be a general dislike of the toggles both by owners and reviewers, and not a lot of them raving about the toggle setup. There's also critcism of the counter-intuitive directional setup for the floor shifter. I am wondering if owners here find this to be true. Or with the paddle setup, do you now find that the floor shifter is a non-issue now anyways?

 

I actually use the floor shifter more than the paddles. Maybe 70%. I dont find it counter intuitive at all. In fact when I got in a Bimmer (I think it was), the step tronic was in the opposite direction and I didnt like it. I think the PDK direction is intuitive.

Disagree with Yrallis on the X51 comment and getting a GT3. X51 is expensive (and to some its not worth it) but you cant compare a C2S or C4S with PDK and X-51 to a GT3. Cost wise they may be the same, but they are 2 totally different driving experiences. Buy what you like - cost wise they will be close. One you can live with easily on the street as a DD (C2S) the other is better suited to the track and you can use from time to time on the street. The C2S with PDK and X51 may be almost quicker for street use (flame suit on here ). PDK really gets a lot out of the car acceleration wise. Its 0-60 times would surely be in the high 3's.

 

+1! It really is an expensive option, a well equipped C2S w/ PDK & X51 will almost cost as much as a well equipped GT3. I would rather pay $10k more and get the full GT3

 

Some people really do not want a stick for a daily driver..and you can't get a GT3 with a PDK, can't get a GT3 cab......so if you really like big oem power (as opposed to aftermarket mods) and need those kinds of options Porsche will oblige, for $$$$$

 

You are correct, for a dd a regular carrera S/4S would be more of a logical choice. But for us guys, we barely keep our cars stock so in the end buying a GT3 makes more sense... I was looking at my point of view

With all the money I have spent modding the car I could have gotten a GT3 (with the money I paid for the car of course). And with everything I have done I still can't match up

 

But you can get a Turbo . I still haven't figured out why anyone would want a high powered cab . The two concepts contradict each other , Spend more to have X51 , spend more to detract from it with a cab ?

 

Just like everyone said, the x51 is so expensive, and personally i'd rather buy a gt3 over a 911 x51.. But that's me..

 

I agree that they are different experiences but in terms of cost effective --the X51 prices itself in a domain where it can never recover . Even the Gt3 selling without a discount prices itself out of the market in terms of what i feel is a decent value .

In short --back in the old days I didn't care as much about what the car cost but in recent times and after following the market on price it really is up to the buyer to examine the value . Why buy a PDK , 997S , Cab optioned up to cost in Gt3 or Turbo range ? For an "experience" ? How about the experience when you go to sell it and no one wants to pay you even 1/10 of what that X51 cost you ? Isn't that part of the experience too?

 

I prefer the redundant L/R buttons. More advanced, off the beaten path. Sheep may not apply.

 

Well at least with the two direction buttons I can shift up and down with one hand on the wheel with the other up the skirt of a female passenger

 

I really donīt understand all your statments on this issues, special from someone who bought a Turbo and spent zillions to get to his own specification and will get zero in return when time to sell comes, how can you mention resale valuer to anyone ????!!!!!!! I wont criticise you because I would do the same in the end itīs all a matter of personal needs and tastes, and of course it makes sence to have a powerful Cabrio. No other type of car can get you so close to the "elements" like a Cab does. The smell of burning clucth together with hot engine perfume and flamed brakes are priceless...then you can get the wind on your face while cruising slowly in any mountain road or next to the sea, feeling the nature as close has it can be in a car.

In your prespective a Carrera GT doesnīt make sence!!?? a spyder Gallardo doesnīt make sence !!?? an F150 doesnīt make sence!!?? a 430 Spyder doesnīt make sence!!??

Wonder why the flagship from Zonda, Porsche, Bugatti, Konigsegg and many other Top brands are Cabīs.

Even tuners like 9ff find it useful to have a 800Hp Cab

Iīm in Angola for work right now, and just returned from a four hour trip into the deep Maiombe forest. Went thrue beautiful water channels and wonderful sand roads surrounded by huge trees with a Jeep Cab, it was a marvel it simply took my breath away. Believe me I wouldnīt trade it for any 1500hp Tri-Turbo Cayenne

So yes, it makes sence to have a X51 Cab, I have mine for 4 months, and still think I should have order it with the power kit On the GT3 you canīt get it open to the sky, the wings and spoilers doesnīt do nothing for me, much prefer the cleaner look from stock Carrera, it doesnīt have the rear seats for great rides with my six years old son, itīs way more discret than any GT3 and with PDK, can even be a faster DD than a GT3 so these are all advantages in my book.

 

J.Seven-

I'll address your points --

1) I do have a Turbo and the money spent to modify it in 2007 made more sense then in that economy than if I was going to do it now in 2009. I also never claimed that the Turbo made sense even then but it makes a lot less sense now. It made even less sense 6 months ago.
Unless one lives with his finances in a vacuum investment
ojectives change .
In fact the HUGE change in Porsche sales data reflects a shift in buyer sentiment too.

2) The Lambo, Carrera Gt, etc are exotic cars . So are the tuner specialty cars. They rarely make sense on a financial level . they are purely an emotional purchase . But we are not talkiing about an exotic when describing an x51 . An exotic is one of a kind but an X51 has a lot of competition even amongst sibling vehicles some of which are priced less .

3) i will never try and talk you out of an X51 . I simply post from my perspective and if your wish is to have a cab and take your son using the rear seats then your driving priorities are different than mine. Just because I view the X51 inferior to a Gt3 does not mean that my opinion is fact.
Porsche does make more Gt3's than it sells X51 cabs --but even if your viewpoint is a minority it does noit make it wrong in any way . It simply makes less sense to the majority of 997S buyers (as seen on this thread too).
I would wish you well with it --even though I would not buy it for myself.