Getting Porsche to cover it is not assured. You might want to call Sunset Porsche, last week they were offering 3.6's and 3.8, even a 3.8 X51 for $8,190 without a core charges. With that price you could have a new engine for about $10,000 or so. Just in case Porsche won't do anything.

 

When you get your answer can you also ask if the replacement engine will have the upgraded bearing/bolt that reduced the chance of IMS failure. It would be crap if you received a new motor with the same design flaw.

Thanks.

 

it will

 

It should have all the latest updates to fix the IMS and the RMS issues. I just hope they do it.

 

Well, I don't have an update yet from Porsche. Still waiting on them. The car is at Pepe Motors in NY and I should have some pictures by the end of the week. Now, the service manager didn't sound like Porsche would replace the engine. Reasons are because I didn't buy it from a Porsche dealer and I didn't get it CPO. I have no mods on the car and the only thing helping me is the low miles. For all of you who just purchased an 05 997 S get it CPO if you didn't buy it from a dealer. DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!!!

If anyone has any connection with Porsche I can really use a friendly hand.

I will report back once I hear back from Porsche.

 

You may need a lawyer, or at least some pressure from one. This is clearly a design flaw evidenced by the corrective action taken after MY05.

Porsche should pay for not having issued a recall/retrofit.

 

Couple points:

1. Don't think its possible to "CPO" a car. You either buy it CPO or you don't, and it must be from a Porsche dealer. You can, however, buy a service plan from Easycare, etc. (don't call it an extended warranty, it's not. It's a service plan).

2. It's my understanding that the IMS retrofit kit from LN engineering, while targeted to 996 and Boxster cars, is applicable to early 2005 997's as well. I'm considering this for my April build 2005 997. I think the drill would be to drop the tranny, replace clutch while open, replace RMS since you're in there, and do the IMS retrofit. Probably a couple thousand, which is much less than the aftermarket service plans and then you've handled the 2 major concerns of the vehicle. Has anyone done this?

 

My warranty is up May 2010 and i will be trading my C2S on a CPO GT3 or 997.2S

 

If they run a DME scan and it shows any over revs no one will be able to help.

My advice is try to work with PCNA in a professional manner to try to come to some middle ground if they refuse the initial outlay for the engine.

Good luck

 

The IMS retrofit has never been done and it is too late for that now the damages has already been done. I don't think I ever over revs especially at the time of the failure. We'll wait to see what Porsche said and take it from there.

Anybody want to buy a 2005 997 S with no engine?

 

Sorry, my question was a semi-related hijack. Yes, it's too late for your motor (and I sympathize). I was wondering if anyone had done the retrofit preventively -- taking a lesson from your dilemma.

Seems like most of the advice people give is getting CP0's or paying for service contracts. Now that we're seeing 997 models out of factory warranty, this and other quality issues are going to show up more and more. Given that it's out of the factory's hands, and short of paying through the nose to 3rd parties, seems like another option is to share info on actually solving the problem. Unfortunately we can't always just toss the keys and say "fix it."

 

Good luck

 

I bought my 2005 997S with a new engine that had replaced an IMS failed engine. The PO was out of warranty by 8 months (but only had 40k miles). According to the service record, Porsche had replaced the engine out of "good will for a loyal customer". I looked at his service records (all done by the dealer) and he went above and beyond the Porsche maintenance schedule, had the oil replaced twice in between. I think that Porsche had seen this and realized that he couldn't have taken better care of this car and the engine still failed!

If you have good proof of proper care, it will help your case when out of warranty. Hope this bit of info helps. Good luck!

 

solidst8's story proves to me that IMS failures have little to do with maintenence, but rather a poor design. You hear on a regular basis about well maintained M97/M97 engines that suffer IMS failures.

Not sure a lawyer will due much good, lots of owners of 996's and 997's have talked about this.
Seems no one has successfully pursued a lawsuit on this (which is somewhat surprising given the number of these failures.

 

Thank you, it does give me a little hope. My car has only 12,500 miles. I only put 4k miles since I purchased it. The last owner took good care of the car and provided me all the service records. This is my 3rd Porsche, so I hope that they would want to keep me as a loyal customer.