It is so hard to differentiate between loving the Gt3RS vs being infatuated by it. You guys have been real great and patient .

So I wrote this list
as I wrestle with these two conflicting sets of sentiment about the choice with the 3 cars. (gt3RS,gt3, PDK)

Pro GT3RS -
1) It is an ICON of the 997 .
2) It is the purest NA platform
3) It is unique and does what the Porsche 911 was has set out to make as a production car with racing heritage.

Against Gt3RS -
1) It will be uncomfortable.
2) too much flamboat for the road.
3) only meant for one place -- the track -- and to drive it on the street is a waste in every capacity.

Pro Gt3
1) It is cheaper
2) calls less attention
3) a little more street friendly
4) step up from PDK 997S

Against Gt3
1) It's not an RS . It's almost an RS .
2) It may not even be as quick as the modded PDK
3) It's costs enough to make trading the PDK expensive only to end up somewhere in the middle if it's amazing.

Pro PDK -
1) It sure is the cheapest option
2) the most practical too
3) I can learn the track with it first if i wanted (thanks for that video Sin911)
4) It's worry free . It can even go to the movies if it had to.

Against PDK --
I can't find any reason .
The PDK car really is that good. It is balanced and fantastic.

The more I think about it -the more clear it becomes to keep the PDK .

 

Your logic is faultless. Only you know what you want. I long ceased to look over the fence... I used to, and I was never happy. Now, I make a decision and do not look back - I'm happy now.

 

I think you are finally getting to the reasonable state to truly debate whether to buy it or not. We all do love GT3s, but sometimes it is not the rational choice to go after it (like for me, after investing so much in my car).

You can always start tracking the C2S, develop your skills and then buy the next gen RS. The C2S is so practical for you; it has softer suspension compared to the RS and it's automatic. So you can get caught in traffic without any problems.

I still vote that you should sell both the P-cars and get the new GT2 RS!

 

I totally agree with Adias. Go with your gut feeling and one that would make you truly happy and remember..."Life is Too Short" to worry about the little things!

Vince

 

Drive one and see. I drove a Turbo for a few days and then a GT3 and it was no comparison. A Porsche in its purest form. I am sure the RS is even more so but really less complimentary of street use. The GT3 seems to be a perfect match. My buddy has a PDK S and while quick, my GT3 pulled on him yesterday from a dead start and had a car length on him past 60.

 

Second thoughts? I hope so.

A $150K purshcase for a car that IMHO doesn't fit your present driving habits should bring second thoughts (although your driving habits are subject to change if you do indeed get it)


My gut feeling is go for it. Even if you only go 3-4K miles a year, what a way to take those miles.

Good luck

 

I agree with you yrralis1. The cars you have now will take you to your limits and then ask "is that all you got?". I think you are making the right decisions. Now, if you were tracking every other weekend and you were looking to upgrade then I could see changing your ride. I think you are working through this well. You will make the right choice no matter what.

 

No can argue any of these cars as good or bad . They are all great.
It's just a matter of which is right for me and I think I am looking when I already have them . At least for now

I do need a nap though. This has been quite exhausting .
Did I say "exhaust" ? Oh no
Just kidding.

 

Larry,

I think that you would get as much enjoyment out of your C2S with your current driving requirements. The GT3 shows it's strength out in the track, and if you decide to start tracking, your modded C2S would hold it's own until you start hitting the higher skilled groups.

 

What an interesting saga.

IMO, there is no rational analysis, only emotional rationalization. The former is used to invest, the latter to help acquire things that lose $.

The more you focus on emotional rationalization to more these cars appear different. The more rational analysis you apply the more the appear the same.

Neither is right nor wrong. Just pick a perspective and stick to it, but don't conflate the two - which I think you are doing.

 

You can hardly apply logic to justify a P-car purchase. It has to be emotional. I have a suspicion that you will always have second thoughts until you get the RS... This isn't your first or second or even third car, so make sure it raises your blood pressure every time it's in sight.

 

yrralis1, I can completely identify with your struggle as I have also been there.

I once read a great line somewhere (can't remember exactly where) that went like this: "don't be who you are, but instead whom you can become". This line really inspired me as a kid but, as I grew older, I started realizing that this should really be: "when younger, be as you can become, and older, be as you are".

My point being that it is really easy to be infatuated with an ideal of perfection (i.e. GT3RS) since it is by definition flawless, but the harsh reality is that (at leas for me), my back isn't as it used to (tough mornings now), my driving isn't at it used to (less aggression, more enjoyment), all in all, I am just more ready to take compromises now. The bottom line is: pursuing perfection takes a lot of time and energy - which are both finite quantities and spread onto more and more endeavors as I grew older.

To make a long story short, my own personal conclusion was that I would rather have a "comfortable" C2S on the road 15,000 miles a year than a "perfect" GT3RS on the track 1,000 miles a year. Now if my wife would just allow me to throw out the grand piano and put a GT3RS "sculpture" in the living room, I would buy one in less than 4 seconds... But that is a different story.

Whatever you decide, they are all great automobile and each one is, in its own way, the perfect tool for the job. But one thing is clear: you are very fortunate to be afforded this "very difficult" choice in life and maybe, just maybe, this is one of those cases where the process and anticipation is just as much fun, and maybe more, than the endgame would be.

Sorry for the ramblings, this is just my CDN$0.02,

T.

 

Larry, you do not track your cars and you seem to be more into the luxury aspect of cars so there is no way I would ever see you in a GT3 or GT3RS. The GT cars are the sport rawist version of a Porsche.....to me this fits what I like about a sports car. For some this is not what they like. So you, like me at least know what you are into.

 

Yep - no arguing that logic. The only thing is, can you get past having to scratch that itch? Once you have done it, then you'll know. And if the car is not for you after a while, then you can get a next gen C2S and know that you know. Otherwise, seems like you are going to keep having these Nikki Taylor fantasies (or similar).

The RS would probably make you drive your Turbo more since it would become your most "normal" street Porsche - that might be good. And maybe your M3 too. You have it too tough, man.

 

Sounds to me like Porsche needs to make a PDK GT3...perhaps you should wait and see what they come out with next.