anyone get ecu tuning for 997.2S... want your impression!
In houston, we have 3 dealers.
Dealer 1 - no quote, not interested in any parts that are not porsche OEM
This is the biggest dealer in Houston but I had some issues from this place. I paid too much for installing K40 radar system and XM receiver installations. Dealer did not do the work and it was done by the shop which was recommended by the sales manager. They took me for the ride. K40 - $1995 , XM receiver - $1200., Not only that, I have not received my second key and it has been three weeks since I purchased car from this dealer. Finally, I contacted the Porsche USA and filed case #. Now this dealer is moving to get things done quicker. There are other place in Houston that you can do the K40 for $1250 and XM receiver for $800.
Dealer 2 - 20 miles from my house, so I didn't even bother
Dealer 3 - Great service manager who has very high reputations. My good friend who has been PCA member for 22 years told me if this guy tell you that you need the brakes, you really need the brakes. Since my car only has 1300 miles now 07 997 TT, I did ask the Serv. Manager about the future maintenance work.
He told me spark plugs do not need to be changed out till 30k miles and other items that are not bad including the belts and other items will not be changed out during next major check up which will be done about 1 year from now. ( Car will be about little over 4 years old by then). So, that was the other thing that I found out which made decision little easier.
I did price the new Champion intercoolers and they retail for $3500 just on the parts. If you cool, could you possibly get the drive out pricing in your state and share it with me? I am just curious.
Sorry, I didn't mean to write too much
Dealer 1 - no quote, not interested in any parts that are not porsche OEM
This is the biggest dealer in Houston but I had some issues from this place. I paid too much for installing K40 radar system and XM receiver installations. Dealer did not do the work and it was done by the shop which was recommended by the sales manager. They took me for the ride. K40 - $1995 , XM receiver - $1200., Not only that, I have not received my second key and it has been three weeks since I purchased car from this dealer. Finally, I contacted the Porsche USA and filed case #. Now this dealer is moving to get things done quicker. There are other place in Houston that you can do the K40 for $1250 and XM receiver for $800.
Dealer 2 - 20 miles from my house, so I didn't even bother
Dealer 3 - Great service manager who has very high reputations. My good friend who has been PCA member for 22 years told me if this guy tell you that you need the brakes, you really need the brakes. Since my car only has 1300 miles now 07 997 TT, I did ask the Serv. Manager about the future maintenance work.
He told me spark plugs do not need to be changed out till 30k miles and other items that are not bad including the belts and other items will not be changed out during next major check up which will be done about 1 year from now. ( Car will be about little over 4 years old by then). So, that was the other thing that I found out which made decision little easier.
I did price the new Champion intercoolers and they retail for $3500 just on the parts. If you cool, could you possibly get the drive out pricing in your state and share it with me? I am just curious.
Sorry, I didn't mean to write too much
Sherman
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Yes dealers do flash new cars, my dealers does and uses GIAC. If you want to do a ECU flash 99.9% nothing will go wrong. I am just telling you what is actual truth is on the cars warranty. Call PCNA in Atlanta and ask them...they will tell you the same thing.
So for example say something in your ECU goes wrong or say you burn a piston. Your dealer CAN NOT authorize the warranty claim without approval from the Porsche Zone Rep, who....will go to the dealer and pull the ECU read out from your car and will see the ECU has been tampered with....ie NO WARRANTY.
I hate to tell you but this is the absolute truth explained to be by Porsche Cars North America.
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Thank you, Only reason why I am doing this at Porsche dealer while paying higher cost is to preserve my warranty. My warranty runs out 2011 + 2 years of Porsche certified warranty going out to 2013. I talked to service manager at the dealer and was told that he will give me to me in writing about their work and it will not void the warranty from PCNA. My friend just did Cayenne Turbo and was very happy with his result. He only did GIAC Tuning with no other work. Anyway, I feel lot better seeing your e-mail. Some dealers are not new to the after market modification and are discouraging the work with false story.
Here is the number call them.... I did...Porsche Cars North America Phone: 770-290-3500. Toll free: 800-545-8039 ..
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Well work is completed and the car is sitting at the Posche dealer garage with out the rear bumper. Dealer along with PCA is doing the demo for the Exhaust, tuning, and intercoolers this Saturday. They asked for my permission to show my car to the people who is coming to the scheduled event. I actually got the routine e-mail from PCA inviting the members like me to visit the dealer for this event. I am anxious and itching to drive my vehicle. They will let me have the vehicle after 1 p.m. this Sat. How do you guys add the vehicle type under your e-mail? Do you type it in every time or just copy and paste at the end?
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Guys, I strongly invite you to call PCNA and tell them what you want to do to the car and ask them how it affects warranty. Tell them your dealer said it will not affect warranty. PCNA will tell you that the warranty of the cars power-train and electrical system etc... is with Porsche and NOT the dealer. The dealer cannot force Porsche to do a repair under warranty if the issue is cause by a non-Porsche part...i.e. an ECU flash as we are discussing.
Here is the number call them.... I did...Porsche Cars North America Phone: 770-290-3500. Toll free: 800-545-8039 ..
Here is the number call them.... I did...Porsche Cars North America Phone: 770-290-3500. Toll free: 800-545-8039 ..
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There are magnuson moss warranty laws (google it and read) .
Mdrums is correct .
Porsche will ONLY cover their own stock parts and damage resulting from their use.
If an aftermarket part is the cause of the damage then a manufacturer may void that claim. However a tuner may honor the repair of whatever Porsche doersn't cover .
If a dealership has a "motorsports" devision --it is a separate entity from Porsche .
This (below) is a repost about my feelings on aftermarket that i posted in an old thread --
I am simply a customer
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Sometimes modding cars and discussing warranty publicly takes a quiet issue and places it center stage . The tuners lose , the dealerships lose, the customers lose .. not good for anyone in my opinion. I see no gain from this type of thread.
Some believe that warranty is some majic carpet of protection yet examples can be cited where even a stock car has faced repair hurdles.
Some believe that modifying exposes the risk of NON repair and that's not always true either .
The answer --it's ALL in how well one negotiates and copes with his car.
Lastly -- My car has my name on the title . It doesn't have the tuners name nor the factory . The owner is ultimately responsible with what he does with his car and how he deals with fixing it . In short --no one will tell me what to do with my car . If I am happy I give more business and if not I walk from it .
I have been extremly happy with my mods at this time and if I wasn't I would walk away from the car. this board , Porsche --in a heart beat .
As a customer I think it's in Porsches best interest to sell me a 9th Porsche and for anyone who sells me a product for my car to work with me the best they can .
Porsche will ONLY cover their own stock parts and damage resulting from their use.
If an aftermarket part is the cause of the damage then a manufacturer may void that claim. However a tuner may honor the repair of whatever Porsche doersn't cover .
If a dealership has a "motorsports" devision --it is a separate entity from Porsche .
This (below) is a repost about my feelings on aftermarket that i posted in an old thread --
I am simply a customer
-
Sometimes modding cars and discussing warranty publicly takes a quiet issue and places it center stage . The tuners lose , the dealerships lose, the customers lose .. not good for anyone in my opinion. I see no gain from this type of thread.
Some believe that warranty is some majic carpet of protection yet examples can be cited where even a stock car has faced repair hurdles.
Some believe that modifying exposes the risk of NON repair and that's not always true either .
The answer --it's ALL in how well one negotiates and copes with his car.
Lastly -- My car has my name on the title . It doesn't have the tuners name nor the factory . The owner is ultimately responsible with what he does with his car and how he deals with fixing it . In short --no one will tell me what to do with my car . If I am happy I give more business and if not I walk from it .
I have been extremly happy with my mods at this time and if I wasn't I would walk away from the car. this board , Porsche --in a heart beat .
As a customer I think it's in Porsches best interest to sell me a 9th Porsche and for anyone who sells me a product for my car to work with me the best they can .
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But TAM is looking for candidates to develop the software in collaboration with REVO. They are taking in a DFI 911, cayman and boxster.
Guys, I strongly invite you to call PCNA and tell them what you want to do to the car and ask them how it affects warranty. Tell them your dealer said it will not affect warranty. PCNA will tell you that the warranty of the cars power-train and electrical system etc... is with Porsche and NOT the dealer. The dealer cannot force Porsche to do a repair under warranty if the issue is cause by a non-Porsche part...i.e. an ECU flash as we are discussing.
Here is the number call them.... I did...Porsche Cars North America Phone: 770-290-3500. Toll free: 800-545-8039 ..
Here is the number call them.... I did...Porsche Cars North America Phone: 770-290-3500. Toll free: 800-545-8039 ..
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I hear ya squeaking. I did quite a bit of research the ecu flash and getting the bypass for the muffler. The dealer here is doing the mods on new cars and has been doing it for quite awhile. People just are not coming in for warranty issues due to the flash or adding a muffler. The muffler actually has the car running better because of better flow. The problems come in with the cats and headers etc. So, for me those two mods are pretty low risk and I'm not worried because that's all I'm doing. Also, if the place you do the ecu flash or dealer will not fix whatever problem arises from the flash then...maybe u should find another place that actually stands behind the work they do. Also it sound like you think the engine is going to blow up from flashing the engine. Maybe some of the mods shop guys could chime in on how many engine problems arise from he ecu flash and if it's high or low risk.
Sherman
Sherman
what does muffer by pass do? Does it give you more power with the sound? How much does it usually cost to by pass the muff? I have Tubi Reg, GIAC Tune, Champ. Intercoolers. I heard about cat delete? Do you still have your Cat converter? How loud is your car from inside? Lastly, how do I add the car to my garage in this forum?
Sherman,
what does muffer by pass do? Does it give you more power with the sound? How much does it usually cost to by pass the muff? I have Tubi Reg, GIAC Tune, Champ. Intercoolers. I heard about cat delete? Do you still have your Cat converter? How loud is your car from inside? Lastly, how do I add the car to my garage in this forum?
what does muffer by pass do? Does it give you more power with the sound? How much does it usually cost to by pass the muff? I have Tubi Reg, GIAC Tune, Champ. Intercoolers. I heard about cat delete? Do you still have your Cat converter? How loud is your car from inside? Lastly, how do I add the car to my garage in this forum?
Hope this helps......
http://www.sharkwerks.com/products.php?pid=193
hit the garage link and edit pics.
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Since I bought the complete FVD exhaust (Amazing BTW) I complimented their system with theie software and it is really sweet!!!! Sayboy did this great writeup and video of it.. He loves his too https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...installed.html
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Sherman...read this again....the warranty is NOT with your dealer....the warranty is with Porsche Cars North America....the actual car company.
Yes dealers do flash new cars, my dealers does and uses GIAC. If you want to do a ECU flash 99.9% nothing will go wrong. I am just telling you what is actual truth is on the cars warranty. Call PCNA in Atlanta and ask them...they will tell you the same thing.
So for example say something in your ECU goes wrong or say you burn a piston. Your dealer CAN NOT authorize the warranty claim without approval from the Porsche Zone Rep, who....will go to the dealer and pull the ECU read out from your car and will see the ECU has been tampered with....ie NO WARRANTY.
I hate to tell you but this is the absolute truth explained to be by Porsche Cars North America.
Yes dealers do flash new cars, my dealers does and uses GIAC. If you want to do a ECU flash 99.9% nothing will go wrong. I am just telling you what is actual truth is on the cars warranty. Call PCNA in Atlanta and ask them...they will tell you the same thing.
So for example say something in your ECU goes wrong or say you burn a piston. Your dealer CAN NOT authorize the warranty claim without approval from the Porsche Zone Rep, who....will go to the dealer and pull the ECU read out from your car and will see the ECU has been tampered with....ie NO WARRANTY.
I hate to tell you but this is the absolute truth explained to be by Porsche Cars North America.
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i think if a tuner or modder puts his hands into engine one should simply have funds available to cover a complete engine replacement in worst case scenario. everything comes with a price, an engine is just a part, it can be purchased for some amount of money as anything else. people do swap out engines in old boxsters all the time, M96 used engines market also pretty much exists, M97 market is a bit newer but with time it will all be the same, so, not sure why to sweat it. My mechanic told me to put a new replacement M96 motor into my car is a $9K job. If one wants to get it from a dealer price will be different of course.
