997 Long term reliability
#1
997 Long term reliability
Sorry if this has been asked before but Im curious if anyone here has a high mileage 997 and ideally are these cars built to go over 100k without serious work (ie engine work, tranny repair).
It seems like for many these cars become disposable around 30-40k mileage. Not sure if this is due to upgrading or fearing the upcoming repairs/servicing.
Thanks Cal
It seems like for many these cars become disposable around 30-40k mileage. Not sure if this is due to upgrading or fearing the upcoming repairs/servicing.
Thanks Cal
#2
74k on my 05S daily driver. The car has been an absolute stud. Pads and rotors, plugs and coil packs at 60k. Oil changes every 5k. Replaced the front tires once and the rears 3xs.
Most guys leaving these cars at 30-40k are either leased or traded up.
You'll spend more money on modifications than you will in repairs.
The more a Porsche car is driven, the better it gets.
Most guys leaving these cars at 30-40k are either leased or traded up.
You'll spend more money on modifications than you will in repairs.
The more a Porsche car is driven, the better it gets.
#3
74k on my 05S daily driver. The car has been an absolute stud. Pads and rotors, plugs and coil packs at 60k. Oil changes every 5k. Replaced the front tires once and the rears 3xs.
Most guys leaving these cars at 30-40k are either leased or traded up.
You'll spend more money on modifications than you will in repairs.
The more a Porsche car is driven, the better it gets.
Most guys leaving these cars at 30-40k are either leased or traded up.
You'll spend more money on modifications than you will in repairs.
The more a Porsche car is driven, the better it gets.
#4
First set of rears on my C63 lasted 3500 miles.
#5
Too many smoke shows?!
#6
I think HATTRICK makes a good point regarding the more you drive your Porsche the better it gets. But sometimes I wonder if it's an issue of time and not necessarily mileage that affects these cars. I had my Boxster for 8 years with no major issues. Replaced a few sets of tires, one set of brake pads and the requisite oil changes. It had a minor RMS leak that I never bothered with nor worried about. But, it only had 36 M miles on the OD. If I have put 75 M miles on it over the same period of time I believe it could well have exihibited the same reliablity over that 8 year period. Does it more sense to say then that these cars exhibit reliablity for " X number of years " as opposed to " X number of miles " assuming they are not tracked ?
#7
"It ain't the years, honey, it's the mileage."
--Indiana Jones
05 Cab = 4k miles in the 7 weeks
59 Coupe = 15k miles in 11 years
Both are reliable...so far!
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#8
2nd owner. picked it up with 36k. 38k are mine. i'm every 10-12k with the rears too.....
#9
74k on my 05S daily driver. The car has been an absolute stud. Pads and rotors, plugs and coil packs at 60k. Oil changes every 5k. Replaced the front tires once and the rears 3xs.
Most guys leaving these cars at 30-40k are either leased or traded up.
You'll spend more money on modifications than you will in repairs.
The more a Porsche car is driven, the better it gets.
Most guys leaving these cars at 30-40k are either leased or traded up.
You'll spend more money on modifications than you will in repairs.
The more a Porsche car is driven, the better it gets.
I babied mine from taking delivery ( 4k / yr) then after being unemployed temporarily and almost had to give up the car, finally got back to working and now I am ENJOYING my car..hell what's the point in buying a nice car if you don't use it right?
#10
I think HATTRICK makes a good point regarding the more you drive your Porsche the better it gets. But sometimes I wonder if it's an issue of time and not necessarily mileage that affects these cars. I had my Boxster for 8 years with no major issues. Replaced a few sets of tires, one set of brake pads and the requisite oil changes. It had a minor RMS leak that I never bothered with nor worried about. But, it only had 36 M miles on the OD. If I have put 75 M miles on it over the same period of time I believe it could well have exihibited the same reliablity over that 8 year period. Does it more sense to say then that these cars exhibit reliablity for " X number of years " as opposed to " X number of miles " assuming they are not tracked ?
#13
Sorry if this has been asked before but Im curious if anyone here has a high mileage 997 and ideally are these cars built to go over 100k without serious work (ie engine work, tranny repair).
It seems like for many these cars become disposable around 30-40k mileage. Not sure if this is due to upgrading or fearing the upcoming repairs/servicing.
Thanks Cal
It seems like for many these cars become disposable around 30-40k mileage. Not sure if this is due to upgrading or fearing the upcoming repairs/servicing.
Thanks Cal
getting out of a porsche after warranty is typically a rationalization for getting something newer / better IMO. of course, that makes the ecosystem work well and allows for a nice inventory of used product on the market at a lower price. the economics absolutely do not work when you consider depreciation, etc. under normal circumstances the absolutely worst thing that will happen will cost you $4-5k.
of course, nearly everybody knows of exceptions but they usually result from overrevs, regretful mods or the like.
as an anecdotal example, i have a couple mercedes that i bought with 40-60k miles at huge discounts because of the fear of maintenance. i'd say in 50k miles of use, i've spent about $4k between them, including major service and brakes all around (note: i have a low cost mechanic working under the table, so i did save on parts and labor). had i purchased them a year newer, and CPO'd, the math would never have worked out in my favor.
edit: i wouldn't say the same for all manufacturers, like an out of warranty maserati or jag
Last edited by brendo; 08-28-2010 at 12:48 PM. Reason: forgot the disclaimer
#14
These are solid cars and its very easy to get caught up in the whole trading in when the warranty expires/reach a certain mileage.
My 997S is 1 mile away from crossing the 40k barrier. To some, that would be like pushing the car off a cliff in terms of depreciation but to me, what's the point in me buying it if I don't drive it? It's not my only car, far from it but I *want* to drive it all the time. I probably will trade it in for a 2010 either tail end of next year or in 2012 but if I can't afford to at the time, (med school) then so be it, I'm lucky enough to own a couple of year old Porsche 911, the mileage in the grand scheme of things only matters to the next buyer - enjoy it!
My 997S is 1 mile away from crossing the 40k barrier. To some, that would be like pushing the car off a cliff in terms of depreciation but to me, what's the point in me buying it if I don't drive it? It's not my only car, far from it but I *want* to drive it all the time. I probably will trade it in for a 2010 either tail end of next year or in 2012 but if I can't afford to at the time, (med school) then so be it, I'm lucky enough to own a couple of year old Porsche 911, the mileage in the grand scheme of things only matters to the next buyer - enjoy it!
#15
Some people just have to have a new car, I on the other hand would rather let someone else take the initial devaluation hit. I have purchased used Mercedes with 60 to 80000 miles for my last 3 daily drivers. Extremely reliable if maintenance is done, and I am driving a Mercedes for less than a Hyundai.
With a fanatical original owner, a used Porsche with 30,000 miles is a no brainier.
With a fanatical original owner, a used Porsche with 30,000 miles is a no brainier.