knock-offs vs. OEM wheels
knock-offs vs. OEM wheels
What do you guys think about knock-offs? I really want some of the new Turbo ll's but can't pay $6000+ for them. I know some of the resellers are board sponsors, but is the quality as good as OEM? Any issues with wheel strength etc?
I think you are talking about wheels for your Cayenne, but the simple answer is no they are not on the same quality level. Some Replica's are better then others, but they aren't as good as OEM wheels.
Buy a set of slightly used take offs if you want to save some money.
Buy a set of slightly used take offs if you want to save some money.
6 weeks ago on ebay i bought a set of new OEM 997 Turbo wheels for $2k. the seller "(jgjgjg007", see below) had other ones as well so i'd recommend reaching out to him or just keep browsing ebay -- they seem to have a very good selection of new or lightly used OEM rims. good luck!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWAX%3AIT
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWAX%3AIT
I've spoken with many of people who have called us through the years and time and time I've explained to them that if you're going to compare wheels know what to compare, not only price.
I would say that given the right conditions for disaster any wheel can buckle under pressure. Below is a wheel from one of the most well known manufactures which failed, they are not knock-off wheels so there are many factors which will come into play. THIS POST BELOW TAKEN FROM AN OTHER FORUM:
Here's an (BRAND SENSORED) "FORGED WHEEL" from a track day, scary huh? Any wheel can break given the circumstances and its bound to happen eventually. I've bent the hell out of Volk Racing wheels, cracked a Work Emotion right in the middle of the spoke, but I've yet to damage one Rota wheel on my daily driven 600hp+ car. I'm not saying they are indestructible or stronger than the previously mentioned wheels, but they are definiately quality wheels that should not be shunned upon like they are.
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The "factory Porsche wheel only" mantra is ridiculous. There are many very good wheel manufactures out there and not everyone needs factory forged wheels to drive down to the local mall. Most factory wheels are cast anyway.
I have raced a Mazda in the SCCA for over 10 years and used many different aftermarket wheels, almost all lower priced cast wheels. I have never broken or even bent a wheel, including hitting the wall at NHIS and flipping at the bridge at Limerock.
This hysteria about aftermarket wheels is unfounded, as many of the same companies that make aftermarket wheels also make wheels for major manufactures. A street driven car will not have a problem with a quality reproduction wheel.
I have raced a Mazda in the SCCA for over 10 years and used many different aftermarket wheels, almost all lower priced cast wheels. I have never broken or even bent a wheel, including hitting the wall at NHIS and flipping at the bridge at Limerock.
This hysteria about aftermarket wheels is unfounded, as many of the same companies that make aftermarket wheels also make wheels for major manufactures. A street driven car will not have a problem with a quality reproduction wheel.
I tend to agree with Karl B above - I've had a couple of different aftermarket wheels on other cars - MOMO and Antera to name a few - with no issues whatsoever. To Karl's point, take BBS for example. They make several Porsche OEM wheels as a direct supplier to Porsche AG. I would think their non-OEM Porsche wheels are subjected to the same high standards.
In a different regard, my biggest problem is with replica wheels made to look just like the OEM ones. From a distance or to the untrained eye, they may look the same. But often, they have visual differences that I just can't tolerate.
For example, this replica Turbo wheel below may look the same at first, but the curvature of the spokes as they branch out from the center to the outer rim is too harsh - the real ones are more curaveous. Once put on the car, the subtle differences become even more noticeable. That's why I stick with OEM.
In a different regard, my biggest problem is with replica wheels made to look just like the OEM ones. From a distance or to the untrained eye, they may look the same. But often, they have visual differences that I just can't tolerate.
For example, this replica Turbo wheel below may look the same at first, but the curvature of the spokes as they branch out from the center to the outer rim is too harsh - the real ones are more curaveous. Once put on the car, the subtle differences become even more noticeable. That's why I stick with OEM.
Pretty sure you are fighting a different battle here - no one said factory only, just not "knock offs" - assuming that means something that looks like a factory wheel but is not (= cheap, dubious clone). Of course there are plenty of non-Porsche wheels that could be a good choice - and I bet there are knock-offs of those as well that might not be such a great choice.
The fact that a company clones a wheel style in the first place is a red flag to me. Most decent companies pride themselves in their own distinctive designs.
At least when I hear "knock-off" I'm thinking fake Rolex - which may keep perfect time and be great until the finish wears off in a few weeks and gives you a rash.
Maybe there are *ok* clones, but still it seems lame for a company to do that - Rolex, Wheels, whatever...
The fact that a company clones a wheel style in the first place is a red flag to me. Most decent companies pride themselves in their own distinctive designs.
At least when I hear "knock-off" I'm thinking fake Rolex - which may keep perfect time and be great until the finish wears off in a few weeks and gives you a rash.
Maybe there are *ok* clones, but still it seems lame for a company to do that - Rolex, Wheels, whatever...
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Pretty sure you are fighting a different battle here - no one said factory only, just not "knock offs" - assuming that means something that looks like a factory wheel but is not (= cheap, dubious clone). Of course there are plenty of non-Porsche wheels that could be a good choice - and I bet there are knock-offs of those as well that might not be such a great choice.
The fact that a company clones a wheel style in the first place is a red flag to me. Most decent companies pride themselves in their own distinctive designs.
At least when I hear "knock-off" I'm thinking fake Rolex - which may keep perfect time and be great until the finish wears off in a few weeks and gives you a rash.
Maybe there are *ok* clones, but still it seems lame for a company to do that - Rolex, Wheels, whatever...
The fact that a company clones a wheel style in the first place is a red flag to me. Most decent companies pride themselves in their own distinctive designs.
At least when I hear "knock-off" I'm thinking fake Rolex - which may keep perfect time and be great until the finish wears off in a few weeks and gives you a rash.
Maybe there are *ok* clones, but still it seems lame for a company to do that - Rolex, Wheels, whatever...
[quote=stevepow;3067275]Pretty sure you are fighting a different battle here - no one said factory only, just not "knock offs" - assuming that means something that looks like a factory wheel but is not (= cheap, dubious clone). Of course there are plenty of non-Porsche wheels that could be a good choice - and I bet there are knock-offs of those as well that might not be such a great choice.
The fact that a company clones a wheel style in the first place is a red flag to me. Most decent companies pride themselves in their own distinctive designs.
At least when I hear "knock-off" I'm thinking fake Rolex - which may keep perfect time and be great until the finish wears off in a few weeks and gives you a rash.
Maybe there are *ok* clones, but still it seems lame for a company to do that - Rolex, Wheels, whatever...[/quote]
^^^Totally agree. I think if wheel manufacturers have to go and steal someone elses design and then make it lesser in any sort of way to make it attractive to the buyer is a total con and a reflection on their scruples (or lack thereof should i say).
One thing that needs to be remembered here is that a P is a high performance car that demands the best and at least the OEM rim weight and offsets to get the best out of the car so why diminish the performance of the vehicle for the sake af vanity?
Knock offs are generally much heavier than the oem rims and will never perform the same. So if being some sort of show pony is all that interests you then knock offs is probably a good way to get the looks you want at a budjet price but its a sad way of getting attention. And then you've really got to ask yourself why are driving a P in the first place if all you want to do is be a show off to the world whilst compromising the very performance of the vehicle which it was designed to deliver?? There are better ways and other alternative vehicles available to attract a higher level of looks and attention for the poser. Frankly you'd be far better off buying some aftermarket rims that are at least lighter than what you currently have even if they are second hand as at least they will maintain the level of performance. Or, even second hand oem take offs. But replica rims and fake rolexes? Thats very very tacky imho particularly for a P owner.
The fact that a company clones a wheel style in the first place is a red flag to me. Most decent companies pride themselves in their own distinctive designs.
At least when I hear "knock-off" I'm thinking fake Rolex - which may keep perfect time and be great until the finish wears off in a few weeks and gives you a rash.
Maybe there are *ok* clones, but still it seems lame for a company to do that - Rolex, Wheels, whatever...[/quote]
^^^Totally agree. I think if wheel manufacturers have to go and steal someone elses design and then make it lesser in any sort of way to make it attractive to the buyer is a total con and a reflection on their scruples (or lack thereof should i say).
One thing that needs to be remembered here is that a P is a high performance car that demands the best and at least the OEM rim weight and offsets to get the best out of the car so why diminish the performance of the vehicle for the sake af vanity?
Knock offs are generally much heavier than the oem rims and will never perform the same. So if being some sort of show pony is all that interests you then knock offs is probably a good way to get the looks you want at a budjet price but its a sad way of getting attention. And then you've really got to ask yourself why are driving a P in the first place if all you want to do is be a show off to the world whilst compromising the very performance of the vehicle which it was designed to deliver?? There are better ways and other alternative vehicles available to attract a higher level of looks and attention for the poser. Frankly you'd be far better off buying some aftermarket rims that are at least lighter than what you currently have even if they are second hand as at least they will maintain the level of performance. Or, even second hand oem take offs. But replica rims and fake rolexes? Thats very very tacky imho particularly for a P owner.
I would like to purchase a set of 18" winter wheels for my Targa 4. Where can I buy a set of OEM takeoffs that have the correct offset for a Targa 4. Everywhere I look on the internet I find loads of 19" wheels but I would love a set of Carrera IV 18" takeoffs so I don't have to go with non-OEM wheels




