911 as daily driver?
#31
02-21-2011, 07:20 PM
My M5 alternates as my DD with the C2S.
They are different class of cars. But I can't imagine using the C2S 7 days a week. Sometimes I need more comfort and my M5 is years ahead of my 2008 C2S.
Depending on the day, I would pick either one.
Lifes Good!
They are different class of cars. But I can't imagine using the C2S 7 days a week. Sometimes I need more comfort and my M5 is years ahead of my 2008 C2S.
Depending on the day, I would pick either one.
Lifes Good!
#32
02-21-2011, 08:38 PM
As for our society at times making enjoying the 911 less pleasurable, I'd have to agree.
Do I sometimes feel guilty about getting only 16mpg? I do. I have an easily fixed ding in the rocker panel that only could have come from a steel-toed boot or club of some type. Many roads around me seem to resemble the bombed-out streets of Kandahar province, making me feel I should be driving a rally-based Subaru instead of the 911. Don't let anyone tell you a non-AWD Carrera can't steer as well as a C4. I avoid potholes like I'm Neo dodging bullets in the Matrix!
All in all, I'm fortunate to now own the car of my dreams. The reality is that the world in which I live demands I have another car, and may make me sell the Pcar sooner than I would have imagined.
#33
02-21-2011, 09:04 PM
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We have three cars - an 07 Lexus GX 470, an 06 BMW 3 series sedan, and a 07 C2 6 speed manual. We have 2 small kids. I really contemplated trading in the 06 BMW and using the 997 as a daily driver, but am so glad that we kept the 3 series. I drive my 997 on most days now, but it is great to drive the 3 series as well, especially when I need to take the kids somewhere or just don't feel like driving the 997 in stop and go traffic.
If you could do it, keep the 3 series. You'll be glad that you did. I live in LA and the stop and go gives you leg cramps.
If you could do it, keep the 3 series. You'll be glad that you did. I live in LA and the stop and go gives you leg cramps.
I had a 07 997S along with a 08 E90 328i sport for a DD. I turned in the 328i on lease return and I used the 997 as a DD and I didn't find it very fun. I too have small boys (6 and 9) and although they fit in the backseats now I am worried in a few years this would not be the case. Not to mention what Larry mentioned (yrrallis). Its not just the fact of having to put people in the back seat, its the rest of the enviroment that made me cringe.
I ended up selling the 997S and bought a 2011 E92 M3 ZCP..love the car. I do miss the Porsche.
Dave
#34
02-21-2011, 09:32 PM
what what what?
a) is she your wife? if she isn't, then she has 0 say on WTF you do with your money and she should go make you 4 sandwiches (doesn't matter if you can eat them) so she may always remember her place: the kitchen, not your wallet. You're letting a girl bully you around on what you want to do with your money? I would never stand for that.. No one is worth giving up what you want to do for!
b) if you own one or 15 cars, it isn't like you are going to turn them all on at the same time to start "polluting". You will drive one at a time so what difference does it make if you own one or 15 cars? The manufacturing of said cars will create more pollution? they are being produce either way. Buy what you want man, you are the one who worked to get to where you are so enjoy whatever big boy toys you want to enjoy!!
c) are you a fan of multi-cars? if the answer is yes, then you have your answer.. stop trying to please others.. when was the last time someone bent over backwards to please you? Gotta look out for #1 in this life man
sorry if I am ranting, I have no patience for gfs bullying guys around
a) is she your wife? if she isn't, then she has 0 say on WTF you do with your money and she should go make you 4 sandwiches (doesn't matter if you can eat them) so she may always remember her place: the kitchen, not your wallet. You're letting a girl bully you around on what you want to do with your money? I would never stand for that.. No one is worth giving up what you want to do for!
b) if you own one or 15 cars, it isn't like you are going to turn them all on at the same time to start "polluting". You will drive one at a time so what difference does it make if you own one or 15 cars? The manufacturing of said cars will create more pollution? they are being produce either way. Buy what you want man, you are the one who worked to get to where you are so enjoy whatever big boy toys you want to enjoy!!
c) are you a fan of multi-cars? if the answer is yes, then you have your answer.. stop trying to please others.. when was the last time someone bent over backwards to please you? Gotta look out for #1 in this life man
sorry if I am ranting, I have no patience for gfs bullying guys around
we would probably be best friends..lol
#36
02-22-2011, 07:59 AM
Both are great comments. I'm picking up a MINI Countryman tomorrow that will be an enjoyable addition to the 911 as I too believe it's nice to have another car in the stable, at least where I live.
As for our society at times making enjoying the 911 less pleasurable, I'd have to agree.
Do I sometimes feel guilty about getting only 16mpg? I do. I have an easily fixed ding in the rocker panel that only could have come from a steel-toed boot or club of some type. Many roads around me seem to resemble the bombed-out streets of Kandahar province, making me feel I should be driving a rally-based Subaru instead of the 911. Don't let anyone tell you a non-AWD Carrera can't steer as well as a C4. I avoid potholes like I'm Neo dodging bullets in the Matrix!
All in all, I'm fortunate to now own the car of my dreams. The reality is that the world in which I live demands I have another car, and may make me sell the Pcar sooner than I would have imagined.
As for our society at times making enjoying the 911 less pleasurable, I'd have to agree.
Do I sometimes feel guilty about getting only 16mpg? I do. I have an easily fixed ding in the rocker panel that only could have come from a steel-toed boot or club of some type. Many roads around me seem to resemble the bombed-out streets of Kandahar province, making me feel I should be driving a rally-based Subaru instead of the 911. Don't let anyone tell you a non-AWD Carrera can't steer as well as a C4. I avoid potholes like I'm Neo dodging bullets in the Matrix!
All in all, I'm fortunate to now own the car of my dreams. The reality is that the world in which I live demands I have another car, and may make me sell the Pcar sooner than I would have imagined.
#37
02-22-2011, 12:05 PM
I've had several BMWs and loved them all (save for our current X5 4.8 sport which I like a lot, but don't love).
Thing is. The 911 is 100% sports car. There is tire and engine noise, and a relatively rough ride over sharp bumps. It's very analog whereas BMWs are digital. Most 911 owners love this quality - I certainly do.
The 911 is a raw, no frills, unadulterated, unfiltered driving experience. Most normal people don't want this everyday.
I drive mine everyday and I love it (I'm in the NE with rotten roads, but very little traffic). But if i had another vehicle, I'd probably use it whenever I was sick or tired.
I'm going out on a limb to say that the majority of drivers (especially if you're coming from a BMW) would find a 911 too spartan and uncomfortable for daily commuting. In essence their decisions collectively make the statement: the convenience & comfort tradeoffs aren't justified for my driving style and preferences... To each his own
Keep the 3 and be careful buying a brand new design 911, they are actually putting computers in them now...
DRP
Thing is. The 911 is 100% sports car. There is tire and engine noise, and a relatively rough ride over sharp bumps. It's very analog whereas BMWs are digital. Most 911 owners love this quality - I certainly do.
The 911 is a raw, no frills, unadulterated, unfiltered driving experience. Most normal people don't want this everyday.
I drive mine everyday and I love it (I'm in the NE with rotten roads, but very little traffic). But if i had another vehicle, I'd probably use it whenever I was sick or tired.
I'm going out on a limb to say that the majority of drivers (especially if you're coming from a BMW) would find a 911 too spartan and uncomfortable for daily commuting. In essence their decisions collectively make the statement: the convenience & comfort tradeoffs aren't justified for my driving style and preferences... To each his own
Keep the 3 and be careful buying a brand new design 911, they are actually putting computers in them now...
DRP
#38
02-22-2011, 12:31 PM
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Rep Power: 103 I've had several BMWs and loved them all (save for our current X5 4.8 sport which I like a lot, but don't love).
Thing is. The 911 is 100% sports car. There is tire and engine noise, and a relatively rough ride over sharp bumps. It's very analog whereas BMWs are digital. Most 911 owners love this quality - I certainly do.
The 911 is a raw, no frills, unadulterated, unfiltered driving experience. Most normal people don't want this everyday.
I drive mine everyday and I love it (I'm in the NE with rotten roads, but very little traffic). But if i had another vehicle, I'd probably use it whenever I was sick or tired.
I'm going out on a limb to say that the majority of drivers (especially if you're coming from a BMW) would find a 911 too spartan and uncomfortable for daily commuting. In essence their decisions collectively make the statement: the convenience & comfort tradeoffs aren't justified for my driving style and preferences... To each his own
Keep the 3 and be careful buying a brand new design 911, they are actually putting computers in them now...
DRP
Thing is. The 911 is 100% sports car. There is tire and engine noise, and a relatively rough ride over sharp bumps. It's very analog whereas BMWs are digital. Most 911 owners love this quality - I certainly do.
The 911 is a raw, no frills, unadulterated, unfiltered driving experience. Most normal people don't want this everyday.
I drive mine everyday and I love it (I'm in the NE with rotten roads, but very little traffic). But if i had another vehicle, I'd probably use it whenever I was sick or tired.
I'm going out on a limb to say that the majority of drivers (especially if you're coming from a BMW) would find a 911 too spartan and uncomfortable for daily commuting. In essence their decisions collectively make the statement: the convenience & comfort tradeoffs aren't justified for my driving style and preferences... To each his own
Keep the 3 and be careful buying a brand new design 911, they are actually putting computers in them now...
DRP
#40
02-22-2011, 03:15 PM
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Rep Power: 161 so right now I'm in an '07 BMW e92 (3-series coupe), but have might sights set on the upcoming 911 (991, carrera) for my next vehicle in a couple years.
I love my car, and the amount of miles I put on that car show (lol), so i'm wondering if anyone here uses their 911 as a daily driver? And by daily driver, i'm assuming 50 or so miles/day about 5-7 days a week.
I could keep the 3-series and add the 911 as well, but honestly, I would probably drive the Porsche 9 out of 10 times anyway, and would rather get some trade-in value for 3 at purchase time. Is the 911 a car that is meant to be driven often and reliable enough for the stop-n-go traffic that Atlanta offers a good portion of the time?
Just want to hear your thoughts and experiences...thanks guys!!
I love my car, and the amount of miles I put on that car show (lol), so i'm wondering if anyone here uses their 911 as a daily driver? And by daily driver, i'm assuming 50 or so miles/day about 5-7 days a week.
I could keep the 3-series and add the 911 as well, but honestly, I would probably drive the Porsche 9 out of 10 times anyway, and would rather get some trade-in value for 3 at purchase time. Is the 911 a car that is meant to be driven often and reliable enough for the stop-n-go traffic that Atlanta offers a good portion of the time?
Just want to hear your thoughts and experiences...thanks guys!!
if you have to leave your car on a public parking lot and then do some grocery shopping - better be ready to get dings and damage.
if you need to transport more than 1 passenger daily - totally not.
stop&go traffic with manual was a pain first month-2 for me, now I do not even notice that. it is not a economically sane DD car to have, bmw 3-series is a way better choice for DD but it has no soul, no fun and it is not a p-car.
#41
02-22-2011, 04:12 PM
I've used my 2009 C2S as a DD since I got it end of December 2008. I've now got 53,000 miles on it. The total cost of maintenance (all at the dealer) has come to $4,800, including tires and additional oil, so about $.09 per mile. Beyond that, I've had the following work under warranty: replaced high pressure fuel pump, replaced driver side seat control module, replaced passenger side airbag sensor. From my one data point, Porsche's are fine as DDs in terms of reliability and cost. It's not a Honda, but then again, it's not a Honda.
Now that I'm off warranty, it will be interesting to see how much higher my cost per mile goes.
Now that I'm off warranty, it will be interesting to see how much higher my cost per mile goes.
#42
02-22-2011, 05:03 PM
Daily driver plus I have a 2006 C4S I purchased used in February of '09 to replace a built STi. When I got it there were 14K miles - I doubled that in 8 months, now sitting around 40K. It carries my groceries, my daughter to school (car seat in back), my mountain bike (http://willwoodsystem.com/) and autocrosses on weekends. Chiming with others, with PASM in normal mode the ride is the same as any sports vehicle. Downsides are (noted elsewhere) problems with people that don't care about others's stuff (dings, etc) and annual (or less) tire replacement (autocross not helping there).
FWIW my wife has an A4 Avant which we use if we need to carry more than three people, otherwise it's the Porsche: my daughter demands it - "No daddy, I want to ride in your car"
I have a 2006 C4S I purchased used in February of '09 to replace a built STi. When I got it there were 14K miles - I doubled that in 8 months, now sitting around 40K. It carries my groceries, my daughter to school (car seat in back), my mountain bike (http://willwoodsystem.com/) and autocrosses on weekends. Chiming with others, with PASM in normal mode the ride is the same as any sports vehicle. Downsides are (noted elsewhere) problems with people that don't care about others's stuff (dings, etc) and annual (or less) tire replacement (autocross not helping there).FWIW my wife has an A4 Avant which we use if we need to carry more than three people, otherwise it's the Porsche: my daughter demands it - "No daddy, I want to ride in your car"
#43
02-23-2011, 02:13 AM
I just switched from an E90 M3 to a 997.2S back in October. It is my DD and main vehicle. My wife has an xDrive 3 series for when the weather is real bad (Colorado), but I put winter tires on my car and I've been driving it all winter.
There have been a few days I skipped due to snow.
As pointed out by yrralis1, the main concern is leaving the car. I always try to park on the edge of the lot, but in smaller lots it's not always a possibility. I end up fretting about the car when I'm running my errand.
But if that doesn't bother you, I think the 911's perfect. Coming from an M3, I couldn't be happier. For me, the 911 just as comfortable. I've missed the space of the M only on a rare occasion or two, otherwise I couldn't be happier.
There have been a few days I skipped due to snow.
As pointed out by yrralis1, the main concern is leaving the car. I always try to park on the edge of the lot, but in smaller lots it's not always a possibility. I end up fretting about the car when I'm running my errand.
But if that doesn't bother you, I think the 911's perfect. Coming from an M3, I couldn't be happier. For me, the 911 just as comfortable. I've missed the space of the M only on a rare occasion or two, otherwise I couldn't be happier.
#44
02-23-2011, 06:49 PM
Daily driver plus I have a 2006 C4S I purchased used in February of '09 to replace a built STi. When I got it there were 14K miles - I doubled that in 8 months, now sitting around 40K. It carries my groceries, my daughter to school (car seat in back), my mountain bike (http://willwoodsystem.com/) and autocrosses on weekends. Chiming with others, with PASM in normal mode the ride is the same as any sports vehicle. Downsides are (noted elsewhere) problems with people that don't care about others's stuff (dings, etc) and annual (or less) tire replacement (autocross not helping there).
FWIW my wife has an A4 Avant which we use if we need to carry more than three people, otherwise it's the Porsche: my daughter demands it - "No daddy, I want to ride in your car"
I have a 2006 C4S I purchased used in February of '09 to replace a built STi. When I got it there were 14K miles - I doubled that in 8 months, now sitting around 40K. It carries my groceries, my daughter to school (car seat in back), my mountain bike (http://willwoodsystem.com/) and autocrosses on weekends. Chiming with others, with PASM in normal mode the ride is the same as any sports vehicle. Downsides are (noted elsewhere) problems with people that don't care about others's stuff (dings, etc) and annual (or less) tire replacement (autocross not helping there).FWIW my wife has an A4 Avant which we use if we need to carry more than three people, otherwise it's the Porsche: my daughter demands it - "No daddy, I want to ride in your car"
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#45
02-23-2011, 07:11 PM
The Scooby was good fun, wicked fast and more practical (real back seats & trunk). What I miss most was that it was paid for I've been doing AWD for awhile now - 6 years of Mitsubishi 300GT VR-4 and 5 years of STi as predecessors - and I'm really happy with the C4S.
With the STi I gutted the suspension (coilovers, GroupN tophats, sways, endlinks, reset caster (Whiteline ALK)) and more. With the C4S I just threw some RSS sways on and now it feels like a sports car.
Guess you need to figure out what you want as IMO the Ms are as different creatures from the C4S as it is from the Scooby.
I've been doing AWD for awhile now - 6 years of Mitsubishi 300GT VR-4 and 5 years of STi as predecessors - and I'm really happy with the C4S.With the STi I gutted the suspension (coilovers, GroupN tophats, sways, endlinks, reset caster (Whiteline ALK)) and more. With the C4S I just threw some RSS sways on and now it feels like a sports car.
Guess you need to figure out what you want as IMO the Ms are as different creatures from the C4S as it is from the Scooby.