$2 DRL solution for fog lights
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Depending on where the readers/owners are, wiring the fogs to be always on when the engine is on (ie running fog lights when there is no dense fog) is likely a traffic code violation. I know it is in Germany and likely the EU. Not sure of the US. Generally a bad idea as its just a hair less annoying than running with high-beams on all the time. Foglights are not driving lights.
I hope cops start stopping people who are using the blue lights who are wanna be Xenon light users. I hate the blue looking light on two lane highways...not pleasant to the eyes and mine are already bad enough!!
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I finally got to shop to buy wire taps.
so here is how you get it done - you get out your light switch and you tap together 'A2 - automaic light yellow/red' wire with 'A5 fog light yellow/white' wire.
now when you put light selector into 'home' position your front fogs will light up when engine is working. 'home' function also works as usual when you shut down engine and fogs turn off in 30sec after you exit the car.
works fine.
so here is how you get it done - you get out your light switch and you tap together 'A2 - automaic light yellow/red' wire with 'A5 fog light yellow/white' wire.
now when you put light selector into 'home' position your front fogs will light up when engine is working. 'home' function also works as usual when you shut down engine and fogs turn off in 30sec after you exit the car.
works fine.
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To those with a 997.2. The LED's in front can be programmed as DRL's. I did mine on my 09 through the PCM. My GTS came with them programmed to on. I think the tech at my dealership knew I had them set to on on my previous car and did the DRL's as a courtesy.
Sometimes I wish I could just turn them off. But they do give you a bit more visibility in traffic.
It's interesting when you think about when DRL's first began to show up on the road. The cars with their headlights on really stood out. Now with almost all cars equipped with DRL's it's not as big a hit visually.
Sometimes I wish I could just turn them off. But they do give you a bit more visibility in traffic.
It's interesting when you think about when DRL's first began to show up on the road. The cars with their headlights on really stood out. Now with almost all cars equipped with DRL's it's not as big a hit visually.
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It`s really simple once you see the instruction provided on Macarbon`s website. Check it out.
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Here you go from macarbon website.
http://www.macarbon.com/install_guid...structions.pdf
After pushing in ****, rotate clockwise to the stop (about 1/8 of a turn). Keep rotated then pull outward and entire assembly will come out easily.
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Great. Thanks!
Here you go from macarbon website.
http://www.macarbon.com/install_guid...structions.pdf
After pushing in ****, rotate clockwise to the stop (about 1/8 of a turn). Keep rotated then pull outward and entire assembly will come out easily.
http://www.macarbon.com/install_guid...structions.pdf
After pushing in ****, rotate clockwise to the stop (about 1/8 of a turn). Keep rotated then pull outward and entire assembly will come out easily.
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Those are not fog lights in the 997.2. They are just DRLs. Fog lights are high intensity, similar to headlight high beams that are projected from lower to the ground to cut under the fog and not reflect directly back at the driver. They are quasi high-beams for foggy conditions.
With the projected & masked xenons on the 997.2 cars, the quality of the lighting is such that fog lights are not necessary anymore for foggy conditions (I'm told), so they don't have fog-light options.
With the projected & masked xenons on the 997.2 cars, the quality of the lighting is such that fog lights are not necessary anymore for foggy conditions (I'm told), so they don't have fog-light options.
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The federal government is trying to address the issue:
Also, over the last three years, the number of glare complaints about fog and other auxiliary front-mounted lamps has increased substantially. This may be because of the significantly increased OEM installation of optional fog lamps and the similar increased aftermarket installations by the public on vehicles in use. This is accompanied by frequent misuse of these lamps: using fog lamps during conditions other than permitted by most states' laws. They are reported to be most often used at night in clear weather, and not under conditions of reduced visibility.
http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/rulings/glare.html
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration -49 CFR Part 571
The DoT of Oregon has this to say:http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/rulings/glare.html
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration -49 CFR Part 571
In normal visibility conditions, fog or auxiliary lights should be turned off.
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Florida's law:
http://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statute...233 Spot lamps and auxiliary lamps.—
(1) SPOT LAMPS.—Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed two spot lamps and every lighted spot lamp shall be so aimed and used that no part of the high intensity portion of the beam will strike the windshield, or any windows, mirror, or occupant of another vehicle in use.
(2) FOG LAMPS.—Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed two fog lamps mounted on the front at a height not less than 12 inches nor more than 30 inches above the level surface upon which the vehicle stands and so aimed that when the vehicle is not loaded none of the high intensity portion of the light to the left of the center of the vehicle shall at a distance of 25 feet ahead project higher than a level of 4 inches below the level of the center of the lamp from which it comes. Lighted fog lamps meeting the above requirements may be used with lower headlamp beams as specified in s. 316.237(1)(b).
(3) AUXILIARY PASSING LAMPS.—Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed two auxiliary passing lamps mounted on the front at a height not less than 24 inches nor more than 42 inches above the level surface upon which the vehicle stands. The provisions of s. 316.237 shall apply to any combination of headlamps and auxiliary passing lamps.
(4) AUXILIARY DRIVING LAMPS.—Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed two auxiliary driving lamps mounted on the front at a height not less than 16 inches nor more than 42 inches above the level surface upon which the vehicle stands. The provisions of s. 316.237 shall apply to any combination of headlamps and auxiliary driving lamps.
(5) VIOLATIONS.—A violation of this section is a noncriminal traffic infraction, punishable as a nonmoving violation as provided in chapter 318.
History.—s. 1, ch. 71-135; s. 183, ch. 99-248.
http://www.flsenate.gov/Laws/Statute...233 Spot lamps and auxiliary lamps.—
(1) SPOT LAMPS.—Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed two spot lamps and every lighted spot lamp shall be so aimed and used that no part of the high intensity portion of the beam will strike the windshield, or any windows, mirror, or occupant of another vehicle in use.
(2) FOG LAMPS.—Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed two fog lamps mounted on the front at a height not less than 12 inches nor more than 30 inches above the level surface upon which the vehicle stands and so aimed that when the vehicle is not loaded none of the high intensity portion of the light to the left of the center of the vehicle shall at a distance of 25 feet ahead project higher than a level of 4 inches below the level of the center of the lamp from which it comes. Lighted fog lamps meeting the above requirements may be used with lower headlamp beams as specified in s. 316.237(1)(b).
(3) AUXILIARY PASSING LAMPS.—Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed two auxiliary passing lamps mounted on the front at a height not less than 24 inches nor more than 42 inches above the level surface upon which the vehicle stands. The provisions of s. 316.237 shall apply to any combination of headlamps and auxiliary passing lamps.
(4) AUXILIARY DRIVING LAMPS.—Any motor vehicle may be equipped with not to exceed two auxiliary driving lamps mounted on the front at a height not less than 16 inches nor more than 42 inches above the level surface upon which the vehicle stands. The provisions of s. 316.237 shall apply to any combination of headlamps and auxiliary driving lamps.
(5) VIOLATIONS.—A violation of this section is a noncriminal traffic infraction, punishable as a nonmoving violation as provided in chapter 318.
History.—s. 1, ch. 71-135; s. 183, ch. 99-248.
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+1 
. Agreed. To the OP (Paul), thanks for a great and easy alternative to the DRL DIY. Too bad for me this came out after I purchase the Dectane Module 
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. Agreed. To the OP (Paul), thanks for a great and easy alternative to the DRL DIY. Too bad for me this came out after I purchase the Dectane Module .
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I'm making the "hack" this weekend. I'm fine with the Florida law since it says "may" & not "shall" be used with lower headlamp beams. If I get stopped I just won't use the Home setting again.
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Sometimes I wish I could just turn them off. But they do give you a bit more visibility in traffic.
It's interesting when you think about when DRL's first began to show up on the road. The cars with their headlights on really stood out. Now with almost all cars equipped with DRL's it's not as big a hit visually.