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Old Jul 6, 2012 | 12:58 PM
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Clutch Issue - Need immediate help from the Community

So i have had the issue since the last couple of days.
The Car just would not go into gear. I switched the car off and shifted to 2nd started it, and drove to dealer. I know what a slipping clutch feels like and the clutch was not slipping. I had full resposne and power from the car.
I told the dealer that it is a slave cylinder issue.
They came back saying that the car needs a new clutch and possibly flywheel.
I just got a call that they can salvage the flywheel but needs a new clutch and a slave cylinder.

I suspect that the car needs only a slave cylinder and they are screwing me over with a new clutch.
Upon my asking they said that the friction plate went bad. I am going to make a surprise pop-over and demand to see the broken parts.
What should i be looking for on a bad friction plate?
 
Old Jul 6, 2012 | 01:25 PM
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do they have everything all apart?
 
Old Jul 6, 2012 | 01:37 PM
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They say so.

My whole surprise popover thing is to call their bluff
 
Old Jul 6, 2012 | 01:44 PM
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If it won't go into gear at idle, and the clutch disc is the problem, as they say, then there will be no friction material left on the clutch disc, save for maybe some shredded bits.
 
Old Jul 6, 2012 | 04:14 PM
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How did the clutch pedal feel? Normal? Any unusual noises? I would suspect a damaged/worn out clutch plate would exhibit some noise/smell or something out of the ordinary leading up to failure. How was the car the time you drove it before you had problems? Even if the clutch disc was worn out that shouldn't prevent you from putting the car in gear assuming the slave cylinder was functioning correctly (which supports your suspicions)...moving the car under power would be another story.
 
Old Jul 6, 2012 | 04:30 PM
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ON sprung Hub clutches I have seen the springs blow apart and interfere with the releasing of the clutch.
I dont think this is the case with a porsche because the Flywheel is a dual mass and the disc is a solid hub... I think...?

If they do infact have it apart it would be foolish to not install a disc/to bearing at the very least. Unfortunately that is also at the cost of 8+ hours
 
Old Jul 6, 2012 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by sameerg
They say so.

My whole surprise popover thing is to call their bluff
Instead of trying to "call their bluff" why not find a dealer you trust.
 
Old Jul 6, 2012 | 07:54 PM
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So,
i went made a surprise popover, and ultimately, they had only diagnosed the car for a bad slave cylinder.
There was no problem with the friction plate whatsoever at all.
I inspected the pressure plate, the pressure plate was not level and there was a little broken piece in the pressure plate.
The Tech said that i did not need a new clutch. The Service advisor just kept telling me since yesterday that the clutch was slipping and i did not know how to drive a car. I called that BS from the get go and it was.

Now, then i saw the clutch that they were going to put in. It was Sachs. Should it not be PORSCHE?
 
Old Jul 6, 2012 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by jhbrennan
Instead of trying to "call their bluff" why not find a dealer you trust.
That is the exact reason for my pop-over. I have had enough of their BS. And now, i wanted to make sure that i do not trust them for a reason.
 
Old Jul 6, 2012 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jhbrennan
Instead of trying to "call their bluff" why not find a dealer you trust.
Definitely. Inspecting damaged parts is just routine good business practice, but feeling the impulse to "call their bluff" is not. You need to use another dealer.

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Old Jul 6, 2012 | 08:28 PM
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Sachs makes clutches for Porsche, I believe.

Originally Posted by sameerg
Now, then i saw the clutch that they were going to put in. It was Sachs. Should it not be PORSCHE?
 
Old Jul 6, 2012 | 08:39 PM
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So you are going to let them install a new pressure plate and new slave cylinder, but NOT a new clutch?

Do you think you will go to them for future work, or will you find a new dealer?
 
Old Jul 6, 2012 | 09:25 PM
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So you are going to let them install a new pressure plate and new slave cylinder, but NOT a new clutch?

Do you think you will go to them for future work, or will you find a new dealer?
No no, i am getting the entire new clutch assembly (Do pardon me if i have used the wrong terminology), except for the flywheel. I did get tempted at the idea of a new clutch.

I would like a new dealer in the real world, but , i have to maintain relations here too because the next closest dealer is 100 miles away.And these cars go bang for no reason anywhere. I can make surprise popovers at the local dealer too.
I have always liked them, but always been in doubt.
 
Old Jul 6, 2012 | 09:27 PM
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I bet a bad pressure plate. I had the same issue. Look at the fingers, they likely are not applying pressure evenly all the way around. I've also seen where the id of the pressure plate is tearing. I think the issue was well documented in this forum.
 
Old Jul 6, 2012 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 808c2s
Sachs makes clutches for Porsche, I believe.
So, it should not create any quality, warranty or durability issues?
 


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