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Extended crank. Is it normal startup for a 2008 Carrera 4S

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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 06:18 PM
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Extended crank. Is it normal startup for a 2008 Carrera 4S

Picked up the car from the dealer yesterday and when I got back in to drive it today I had an almost failed start and then later a failed start. Unfortunately I didn't think to get the failed start on video but this is about 20 min later after I got home. I had the car at the dealer 3 times over the past 2.5 years and they keep saying that they fixed it but when I get back in it does it again.

So far they have fixed a loose fuel pump, loose ground wire, filled battery with acid, tested voltage...

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No it is not. It should fire up in 1-2 seconds at the most. How old is your battery and what is the brand / cranking amps?? Is the engine cranking slowly, or does is seem to "bog down" over a few seconds cranking? Does the starter turn /cranks the engine solid and "powerful / hard" ?? Did you test your battery and check voltage drop during cranking?? Any smells?? If your battery is 2 years old or more, the first thing I would do is to change it for a NON OEM ( ie not a Porsche) battery.
 

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Since you're a 2008 MY you can most likely rule out the alternator/starter harness assembly. I believe that was an issue on 2005 and early 2006 MYs. Are you on your original battery? If so, you might consider replacing it w/ an new one (Interstate seems to be a popular replacement)
 
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Originally Posted by hroussard
No it is not. It should fire up in 1-2 seconds at the most. How old is your battery and what is the brand / cranking amps?? Is the engine cranking slowly, or does is seem to "bog down" over a few seconds cranking? Does the starter turn /cranks the engine solid and "powerful / hard" ?? Did you test your battery and check voltage drop during cranking?? Any smells?? If your battery is 2 years old or more, the first thing I would do is to change it for a NON OEM ( ie not a Porsche) battery.
It is the original battery and they have tested it numerous times. The engine seems to bog down as it turns over a few times and then it starts. Most of the time it turns on after 3 cranks but very often it cranks 4 or 5 times. Do you recommend changing the battery even though the dealer has determined that it is ok?
Strange that they cant reproduce the problem. I am going to keep documenting my startups on video so that I can show them.
The car is under warranty until november and I am worried that if they cant solve it now I am going to have to pay out of pocket later.
 
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your video is private
oops sorry its public now!
 
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That doesn't sound good. Here's what I'd do:

1) Measure the battery voltage. It should be in the high 12s to 13s in voltage.

2) If you have a battery charger put it on and see if it sounds better. Leave it on over night and see if the voltage increases. I have several chargers, one of them has a engine start mode. I'd also try that.

3) Take the battery to autozone or a place like that and have them test it. I think they can load test for dead cells. Dealer should be able to do that too, but since they haven't been able to find anything wrong I'd try someplace else.
 
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Originally Posted by akacaj
It is the original battery and they have tested it numerous times. The engine seems to bog down as it turns over a few times and then it starts. Most of the time it turns on after 3 cranks but very often it cranks 4 or 5 times. Do you recommend changing the battery even though the dealer has determined that it is ok?
Strange that they cant reproduce the problem. I am going to keep documenting my startups on video so that I can show them.
The car is under warranty until november and I am worried that if they cant solve it now I am going to have to pay out of pocket later.
Yep, your battery is going to be the culprit I bet. Porsches are HARD ... VERY HARD on the battery during start-up . Even MORE when the engine is hot!! Go for the appropriate battery from Interstate (as suggested). There are 2 models I believe that fit and are completely interchangeable and they also have the vent tube A MUST HAVE ITEM!!). If it is a Porsche warranty, unfortunately they will put a Porsche OEM battery in it which I would not give the time of day. I am suggesting you go roque on this one.
 
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