Totally confused re PSE on '10 4S
#1
Totally confused re PSE on '10 4S
OK, I thought I was in good shape until I called Michael Stead Porsche of Walnut Creek today and spoke with their service and parts department.
Here are the issues:
1: They charge $1,200 labor for the install of the full system including the harness and switch. (Service) Well that seems a little on the high side to me. I was figuring about $800
2. Service tells me on the '10 "S" cars with PSE installed they cut out or turn off between 25 and 40 MPH and everyone hates that so they just do the install without the switch. (Sounds to me like they do not want to do the full install.) I told service my information was on 996 and 997.1 cars that was the case but on later cars the exhaust did not shut off or go quiet between 25-40 MPH. I said they act just like the PSE on the new 991 - once you activate the switch it stays loud until you deactivate it. Service guy said, "Well that's a whole different animal." (really? I thought it was the same motor?)
3. Parts department tells me that they are not sure they can order parts for the PSE system individually as they only sell the PSE as a compete kit.
SO..... can someone with a 997.2 S with factory PSE installed please settle the whole automatic shut off between 25-40 MPH issue? When you turn it on, is it on at all speeds 0 to whatever you are crazy enough to do, or does it shut itself off as soon as you reach 25 and then turn back on at 40MPH.
One would think this would be pretty straight forward.....I guess not.
Thanks everyone.
Here are the issues:
1: They charge $1,200 labor for the install of the full system including the harness and switch. (Service) Well that seems a little on the high side to me. I was figuring about $800
2. Service tells me on the '10 "S" cars with PSE installed they cut out or turn off between 25 and 40 MPH and everyone hates that so they just do the install without the switch. (Sounds to me like they do not want to do the full install.) I told service my information was on 996 and 997.1 cars that was the case but on later cars the exhaust did not shut off or go quiet between 25-40 MPH. I said they act just like the PSE on the new 991 - once you activate the switch it stays loud until you deactivate it. Service guy said, "Well that's a whole different animal." (really? I thought it was the same motor?)
3. Parts department tells me that they are not sure they can order parts for the PSE system individually as they only sell the PSE as a compete kit.
SO..... can someone with a 997.2 S with factory PSE installed please settle the whole automatic shut off between 25-40 MPH issue? When you turn it on, is it on at all speeds 0 to whatever you are crazy enough to do, or does it shut itself off as soon as you reach 25 and then turn back on at 40MPH.
One would think this would be pretty straight forward.....I guess not.
Thanks everyone.
Last edited by cairo94507; 02-20-2013 at 03:16 PM.
#3
OK, I thought I was in good shape until I called Michael Stead Porsche of Walnut Creek today and spoke with their service and parts department.
Here are the issues:
1: They charge $1,200 labor for the install of the full system including the harness and switch. (Service) Well that seems a little on the high side to me. I was figuring about $800
Here are the issues:
1: They charge $1,200 labor for the install of the full system including the harness and switch. (Service) Well that seems a little on the high side to me. I was figuring about $800
#4
OK, I thought I was in good shape until I called Michael Stead Porsche of Walnut Creek today and spoke with their service and parts department.
Here are the issues:
1: They charge $1,200 labor for the install of the full system including the harness and switch. (Service) Well that seems a little on the high side to me. I was figuring about $800
2. Service tells me on the '10 "S" cars with PSE installed they cut out or turn off between 25 and 40 MPH and everyone hates that so they just do the install without the switch. (Sounds to me like they do not want to do the full install.) I told service my information was on 996 and 997.1 cars that was the case but on later cars the exhaust did not shut off or go quiet between 25-40 MPH. I said they act just like the PSE on the new 991 - once you activate the switch it stays loud until you deactivate it. Service guy said, "Well that's a whole different animal." (really? I thought it was the same motor?)
3. Parts department tells me that they are not sure they can order parts for the PSE system individually as they only sell the PSE as a compete kit.
SO..... can someone with a 997.2 S with factory PSE installed please settle the whole automatic shut off between 25-40 MPH issue? When you turn it on, is it on at all speeds 0 to whatever you are crazy enough to do, or does it shut itself off as soon as you reach 25 and then turn back on at 40MPH.
One would think this would be pretty straight forward.....I guess not.
Thanks everyone.
Here are the issues:
1: They charge $1,200 labor for the install of the full system including the harness and switch. (Service) Well that seems a little on the high side to me. I was figuring about $800
2. Service tells me on the '10 "S" cars with PSE installed they cut out or turn off between 25 and 40 MPH and everyone hates that so they just do the install without the switch. (Sounds to me like they do not want to do the full install.) I told service my information was on 996 and 997.1 cars that was the case but on later cars the exhaust did not shut off or go quiet between 25-40 MPH. I said they act just like the PSE on the new 991 - once you activate the switch it stays loud until you deactivate it. Service guy said, "Well that's a whole different animal." (really? I thought it was the same motor?)
3. Parts department tells me that they are not sure they can order parts for the PSE system individually as they only sell the PSE as a compete kit.
SO..... can someone with a 997.2 S with factory PSE installed please settle the whole automatic shut off between 25-40 MPH issue? When you turn it on, is it on at all speeds 0 to whatever you are crazy enough to do, or does it shut itself off as soon as you reach 25 and then turn back on at 40MPH.
One would think this would be pretty straight forward.....I guess not.
Thanks everyone.
#5
I do not want to do the Gundo hack as this is my wife's DD and she parks in a parking garage at work and does not want to be so conspicuous as she comes and goes and sometimes she wants to enjoy the engine sound and other times not.
Surely someone with a stock '10 "S" with PSE is a member here. I am not sure about the '12 GTS but I would believe they have the same PSE as the '10 "S", but not certain.
Surely someone with a stock '10 "S" with PSE is a member here. I am not sure about the '12 GTS but I would believe they have the same PSE as the '10 "S", but not certain.
#6
I do not want to do the Gundo hack as this is my wife's DD and she parks in a parking garage at work and does not want to be so conspicuous as she comes and goes and sometimes she wants to enjoy the engine sound and other times not.
Surely someone with a stock '10 "S" with PSE is a member here. I am not sure about the '12 GTS but I would believe they have the same PSE as the '10 "S", but not certain.
Surely someone with a stock '10 "S" with PSE is a member here. I am not sure about the '12 GTS but I would believe they have the same PSE as the '10 "S", but not certain.
I did the factory PSE due to warranty. Cost.....$3500.00.
#7
I have 2010 S with factory sports exhaust and it does not turn off between 25-40 MPH. It stays on until you turn it off or shut off the car.
When I first start the car it is on for about five seconds then goes off. After that I push button (when I remember) and it stays on at all speeds.
Car came equipped with PSE when new it was not added at a later date.
When I first start the car it is on for about five seconds then goes off. After that I push button (when I remember) and it stays on at all speeds.
Car came equipped with PSE when new it was not added at a later date.
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#8
I just had the PSE installed 2 weeks ago on my 2010 4s. I asked the same question as you and was told that when the switch is on you have sport exhaust when switch is off no sport exhaust. From what I observe this is correct.
I did the factory PSE due to warranty. Cost.....$3500.00.
I did the factory PSE due to warranty. Cost.....$3500.00.
#12
Last spring, I asked my local dealer about PSE and installation. They didn't mention anything about the shut-off at certain speed, but labour alone, they want almost $2000 after tax. (Sucks being Canadian in this case) I have up on the PSE idea as for that money I could get something better for sure.
#13
2010 C4S Cab. Complete install of PSE system with switch, harness etc. When activated main PSE switch stays on (lit) until you turn it off or restart car. HOWEVER, the baffles WILL close "automatically" (with PSE switch still lit and in on position) between 25 mph and about 40mph muting the PSE sound. European protocol as I understand from my earlier investigation. When the top is down you can hear them close at about 25 mph (sound is muted) then open again around 40 mph and the sound gets louder. This is heard much more clearly with the top down. Hope this helps.
#14
2010 C4S Cab. Complete install of PSE system with switch, harness etc. When activated main PSE switch stays on (lit) until you turn it off or restart car. HOWEVER, the baffles WILL close "automatically" (with PSE switch still lit and in on position) between 25 mph and about 40mph muting the PSE sound. European protocol as I understand from my earlier investigation. When the top is down you can hear them close at about 25 mph (sound is muted) then open again around 40 mph and the sound gets louder. This is heard much more clearly with the top down. Hope this helps.