Hello All,

I need some help please. I just picked up a 2009 C2S with pdk, nav, sport chrono and am enjoying every second of it. I come from a BMW M3 which was also an amazing car but very different....

I need someone's help with bluetooth and my iPhone.... I followed all directions to set it up but can never get the PCM to actually find my phone. I found it the first time I tried but the pairing failed and now cannot find it anymore. I have verified that the bluetooth is on for both the phone and PCM...

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

 

I think you need to have the phone find the car, not the car find the phone

 

This. I had similar problems and then I went into the BT on the phone, erased any past pairing related to the PCM, powered down phone and PCM. Powered PCM and then powered up phone. Went into pairing mode on the PCM and then did a BT pair on the phone and via phone, looked for the PCM. Took a minute or two and the phone found the PCM, put in the pairing code on the phone and works great.

Best of luck!

KS

 

Also, verify that your car has the Bluetooth Phone Option installed on the car. All the 997.2 cars may well have a PCM with a bluetooth hardware radio, but unless they car came with the bluetooth phone option, the PCM won't pair up with the phone.

 

Ahhhh. I think that might be the issue... What is the bluetooth for then? Can I install/program the phone option?

 

Bluetooth, remember, is just a communications pipe via a radio signal, its like a cat5 network cable except wireless. What the other end of the cable is plugged in to is what matters.

I suspect that many/all the PCMs come with the bluetooth hardware, but they only come with (or have enabled) the phone options (there are two to choose from ) if you buy that option.

I'm not sure but I think you can purchase a phone option after the fact and have it coded at the dealer... check with a dealer. Though adding the microphones if not already there is a problem.

Bluetooth just lets your phone communicate to the PCM. Whether the PCM then has anything to do with its end of the connection depends on whether the car has the option needed:

1) Bluetooth HFP (hands free profile) - uses your phone as a phone and uses the car's speakers and some built in microphones as the 'headset' and the PCM and onboard computer (stalks) as the keypad. You can make and receive calls via the PCM buttons and steering stalks. You can browse your phonebook on the PCM as the PCM downloads the phonebook when your phone pairs up with it. Works with any carrier.

2) Bluetooth SIM Profile - your car has a GSM phone built into it with its own antenna, and that phone uses the bluetooth connection to use your cell phone's GSM SIM card to connect to the carrier and manage your call. You use the phone as with #1, but the car is the phone.. only works with GSM carriers obviously (ATT, T-Mobil, etc)

*) There is an option for a phone handset mounted in the car that is a traditional phone handset with speaker for the ear and mic, which connects via bluetooth to the PCM to act as the audio interface rather than the the cars speakers/mic. This, rather than the old corded connection, talks to the PCM via bluetooth. Useful to hand the phone to the passenger or backseat occupants for them to carry a conversation.

The final phone option doesn't involve bluetooth at all, which is you get a cloned copy of your GSM phone's SIM card and insert that card into the slot on the PCM, and the car becomes a GSM phone that is a duplicate of your personal phone, except manages its own address book. Obviously only works with GSM carriers, requires you can get a clone of your SIM card (or you buy a dedicated SIM card for that account, say prepay). Its not tied to you having a phone on you in the car.

 

Thank you Minok.

So the bluetooth is really pointless on the PCM unless you have the phone option added to it... I will have to check with my dealer to see how much it wuodl cost to get that installed.

 

Yes, the bluetooth does nothing at all unless you have a phone option installed in the car that will make use of that. Using your car's VIN you should be able to find out what options came with it.

If you have it with a phone option already, the mic should be built in.. I think the steering cowling in front of the gauge cluster is where they are.

Good luck in getting the option added.

 

Just as an additional data point and why there is a basic bluetooth transceiver in the PCM by default .. even if you don't have the 'phone option' specifically spec'd.. its because with some phone options you can use a bluetooth in car handset (replaces the old wired handset)

 

Did Porsche change that with the later 997.2 models? I have a 2012 GTS with no phone option installed and my iPhone 5 works fine with the bluetooth and PCM.

 

Bluetooth and universal audio was an option on 2009 / 2010 997.2.

According to Edmunds, these became standard in 2011.
http://www.edmunds.com/porsche/911/2011/#fullreview

 

When you say your 2012 and iPhone5 work fine with bluetooth and PCM... what are you doing between your PCM and your phone?

Are you streaming music from the phone to the PCM via bluetooth? If so, thats a new feature of the PCM in 2012 I would guess (not available on the 2009+ 997.2 PCMs as far as I know.

If you are syncing phone book and dialing with the PCM, the here must be a phone option installed. Phone option doesn't mean extra phone handset.. the bluetooth internal handset is an added option for some phone prep options.