Yeah a couple of notes here. I did not agree to pay anything and knew from day one that I would negotiate a price at the time the car actually gets ordered. My deposit for the allocation is refundable. My Dealer, IMO still needs to earn my business. To this point they have not really done their job, I have asked for specific info such as an orger guide, never provided, color samples, never provided, questions regarding a PFS lease left unanswered. So you can fall right off that horse mister.

As far as a discount is concerned, I could care less what their flooring plan is, if they'll discount a floored car they can discount mine. I can assure you they could care less about my financial condition or at least until I take delivery, and I can assure you their fiscal health has not made it onto my radar screen.

I will certainly be doing a search prior to ordering the car, I will certainly ask them to make their best offer to me, but if there is a ready supply of cars in inventory at the SoCal dealers, and yes I will time my purchase based on when I think dealers will have the most cars, I will not heistate for a moment to fly over and road trip one. Been there done that.

 

Bla Bla Bla
Stop fooling around
It's so simple
Write a check and buy a car

 

"Sir can you afford this car", errr I mean thats what I've heard people say to customer like that LOL

 

Is that what you did? Walk in and say I'll take the red one.

But for the record I will buy one when it damn well pleases me.

Money is always an issue, that is how I got in this position to begin with. I'm glad you all have a few grand to throw in the fire, more power to you.

 

no offense personally but this is typical *****ing from typical car salesmen who think they are entitled to make money for as little work as possible. Welcome to the world of sales, some days you eat chicken and some days you eat ****. My attitude is, make your money off the next guy, not me. Sorry, I'm not in the business of supporting car salespeople. If you're looking for pity and handouts, go stand on the corner.

In general people are happy to pay for value added, I can tell you the consensus these days is that car salespeople add very little value to a transaction. Especially if their compensation is inversely related to the price that the customer pays.

 

Downtown Porsche is a great dealer... more than 10% discount was given on my recent purchase... and a good dealer makes all the difference... went through 4 Porsches in one year... and going to have the 5th... their service makes me want to keep buying cars from them... lol besides the boss is my friend too... so maybe that helps...

 

Hey MJC123 how bout this GFY! ( Go F**K Yourself) Im sure whatever you do you either get paid way too much or you charge way too much. It's always the same situation.

 

Alright, I admit I get pretty pissy about this stuff but that is unacceptable. Can we get this guy out of here? ^^^

 

I guess I should apologize. that was uncalled for. The guy deserves that through and through but no one on this post needs to see or put up with that. Sorry Six-speeders.

 

Agreed. The debate is fine, we are all enthusiasts or we wouldn't be here but the language is unacceptable. Mods why not close this thread.

 

Zemdogg,
A "little learning is a dangerous thing", someone said once. I spent 17 years in retail automotive, most of which was in management, and finally ownership. Most customers don't want to hear what you think you know, which appears to be very little by the way. Retail gross profit alone doesn't tell the owners anything, whereas the salesperson looks at a $2500.00 gross, after pack, as the whole of his/her myopic world. With back-end reserve, buy rates, favorable flooring rates and factory incentives, and future allocations are more important to the owner. Sell yourself first, then the car, then the dealership and you won't have time to snivle about customer's attitudes-you'll be making too much money.

 

This is perfect, why they won't sell at a nominal discount to make us feel good and that we "got the hook up" and start building some allocation and get out of their all or nothing mentality. I'm already thinking about a TT while I'm ordering a 997S and my dealer can't think past next week.

 

I live in Los Angeles area and the dealers down here almost make you feel as if they are doing you a favor talking with you and selling you a car. My current order due the end of the year will be my third P-Car and dealer wouldn't even give me $500. off. I got fed up with their attitude and am now buying and sending my friends to Northern CA, San Jose. I have a good contact there and they still treat you as if you are a valued customer there. PM me if you need a referral.

 

Unfortunaltely he's clearly not smart enough to take your advice

 

I went to my local guy first. Told him what I wanted and about what I expected to pay. He never called me. I waited a few days and called him, and he never called me back. So I did some shopping on the net(gotta love the ability to equalize) and found a great deal in Md about 2 hours away. I went there, and bought the car. Before I went there I called every dealer in a hour commute and got no positive response. Funny that I go to my local dealer for service and( I just had my new bumper put on) and the sales guy that waited on me comes up to me after seeing me drive in and pays me a compliment. He did not remember me and I wanted to tell him " well you wouldn't return my call so I went elsewhere". This also happened to a friend that bought a cayanne. My feeling is that whoever gives me the fairest deal up front earns the business