997.2 C2S Prices in SoCal
997.2 C2S Prices in SoCal
Been thinking a lot lately about replacing my 2011 E92 M3 with a 911 (or Stingray)... Just wanted to get a sense of what you guys have been paying here in SoCal lately for 2009-2011 911 Carrera S coupes? The listings I've been looking at seem to be priced a LOT higher than what others on this forum and even the KBB seem to have listed.
Examples:
2010 Carrera S
37,000 miles
PDK, Sport Chrono Plus, Sport Exhaust, Adaptive Sport Seats, Heated Seats, Nav
Non-CPO
$68,000
The cheapest CPO C2S Coupe I can find is a 2011 with 30,000 miles on it listed for $78,000. Not sure on all the options, they're not listed.
I know there's always wiggle room, but what have you guys actually been paying here in SoCal? These prices seem maybe $8,000 more than I was expecting!
Examples:
2010 Carrera S
37,000 miles
PDK, Sport Chrono Plus, Sport Exhaust, Adaptive Sport Seats, Heated Seats, Nav
Non-CPO
$68,000
The cheapest CPO C2S Coupe I can find is a 2011 with 30,000 miles on it listed for $78,000. Not sure on all the options, they're not listed.
I know there's always wiggle room, but what have you guys actually been paying here in SoCal? These prices seem maybe $8,000 more than I was expecting!
Last edited by Jdogg2000; Feb 3, 2014 at 02:28 PM.
I know the dealership here in Austin TX does a lot of sales to people outside of Texas just for such a reason. Even considering air fare, you may find it worthwhile considering looking outside of SoCal. They are typically fairly reasonable in negotiations if you are also reasonable and patient. (BTW, I have no affiliation other than having bought two cars from them). There is a whole country of other options as well. If you haven't seen it already, the main Porsche USA site has a CPO browser that will list of them out there.
This becomes an even safer option if you get a CPO'ed car. The rules for certification are quite high and they do all of the nearer-term service up front, so the car is very likely to be in very good condition, have good tires, and will need no expensive maintenance for quite a while. Both of my CPOs included about 2K worth of service work plus another $1.5k work of new tires on top of the thorough check-up and CPO cost. Ultimately I'd say the CPO (including the warranty cost itself) was worth 5 to 6k plus some piece of mind.
This becomes an even safer option if you get a CPO'ed car. The rules for certification are quite high and they do all of the nearer-term service up front, so the car is very likely to be in very good condition, have good tires, and will need no expensive maintenance for quite a while. Both of my CPOs included about 2K worth of service work plus another $1.5k work of new tires on top of the thorough check-up and CPO cost. Ultimately I'd say the CPO (including the warranty cost itself) was worth 5 to 6k plus some piece of mind.
Wow, thanks for the replies, guys. If I could get a car like yours for $60k, I'd go get it this week. With prices more in the $70k+ range like I've been seeing, I'm seriously considering a Stingray. I wouldn't mind getting the car out of state, just haven't done that before so it would be a different experience for me lol...
Up in Fremont there is a guards red 2011 CS, 12,500 miles and certified for $69k. Not highly optioned, but the sport chrono can be installed by dealer for under $2k. Nice wheels, too.
http://livermore.porschedealer.com/c...99583/info.php
Livermore has a 2011 meteor grey CS with sport chrono, sport exhaust, adaptive sport seats and aerokit for $80k. 11,400 miles and certified.
http://www.porscheoffremont.com/cert...14b90f7db3.htm
Both cars are MT.
http://livermore.porschedealer.com/c...99583/info.php
Livermore has a 2011 meteor grey CS with sport chrono, sport exhaust, adaptive sport seats and aerokit for $80k. 11,400 miles and certified.
http://www.porscheoffremont.com/cert...14b90f7db3.htm
Both cars are MT.
Remember that there is often wiggle room in price, even when a dealer is insisting that the asking price is aggressive and non-negotiable. When push comes to shove you can usually get at least a few thousand off if you show you are very serious but willing to walk out the door. On my last BMW I walked away twice and the negotiations took almost a week before they called me back with a best-and-final.
Also consider asking for things that save you money but don't cost them a lot. I usually end up with at at least a couple of extras thrown in such as updates to the most current Nav data, new rock guards, or window tinting (on the last car that didn't have already it). I usually wait until the last round of money discussions is going nowhere and say I'll sign if you just give me these last couple of little things.
For example, I doubt the asking price on JesseR's car was even close to 60k or included the first service until he did some fine negotiating. He beat me, I came in at 61k (from an original 66k) for a very similar 2009 C2S PDK w CPO at 26.8k miles, full leather, Nav, heated/ventilated seats, heating steering wheel, new tires... but failed to get the first service beyond the one they did as part of the CPO (although I did get the Nav update).
Also consider asking for things that save you money but don't cost them a lot. I usually end up with at at least a couple of extras thrown in such as updates to the most current Nav data, new rock guards, or window tinting (on the last car that didn't have already it). I usually wait until the last round of money discussions is going nowhere and say I'll sign if you just give me these last couple of little things.
For example, I doubt the asking price on JesseR's car was even close to 60k or included the first service until he did some fine negotiating. He beat me, I came in at 61k (from an original 66k) for a very similar 2009 C2S PDK w CPO at 26.8k miles, full leather, Nav, heated/ventilated seats, heating steering wheel, new tires... but failed to get the first service beyond the one they did as part of the CPO (although I did get the Nav update).
Last edited by StormRune; Feb 3, 2014 at 04:02 PM.
I had the same problem when looking for a CPO car. There is no shortage of wealthy people in either SoCal or NorCal, so the dealers are not afraid to ask for high prices.
Do your research well. Find similar listings, or even cars slightly better at a little higher price and use that for your negotiation. I brought in a $73k listing for a low mileage 991 (probably a demo car) and asked why I should pay the asking price of $68k for a 4 yr old 997.2 (even though I had no intention of buying that 991). Eventually agreed on $63k, but I imagine it can go lower if I'm better at negotiation.
Do your research well. Find similar listings, or even cars slightly better at a little higher price and use that for your negotiation. I brought in a $73k listing for a low mileage 991 (probably a demo car) and asked why I should pay the asking price of $68k for a 4 yr old 997.2 (even though I had no intention of buying that 991). Eventually agreed on $63k, but I imagine it can go lower if I'm better at negotiation.
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I had the same problem when looking for a CPO car. There is no shortage of wealthy people in either SoCal or NorCal, so the dealers are not afraid to ask for high prices.
Do your research well. Find similar listings, or even cars slightly better at a little higher price and use that for your negotiation. I brought in a $73k listing for a low mileage 991 (probably a demo car) and asked why I should pay the asking price of $68k for a 4 yr old 997.2 (even though I had no intention of buying that 991). Eventually agreed on $63k, but I imagine it can go lower if I'm better at negotiation.
Do your research well. Find similar listings, or even cars slightly better at a little higher price and use that for your negotiation. I brought in a $73k listing for a low mileage 991 (probably a demo car) and asked why I should pay the asking price of $68k for a 4 yr old 997.2 (even though I had no intention of buying that 991). Eventually agreed on $63k, but I imagine it can go lower if I'm better at negotiation.
Dumb question here. Does $60k on the road include sales tax? Thanks.
It's kinda hard to compare prices from different states. I've noticed that mid-west cars tended to be cheaper. I was looking at cars from Texas and Florida until I found mine in SoCal. At the time... everything in the SF Bay Area was much more expensive then SoCal. Color makes a big difference in price.
When i got mine... about 1.5 years ago. Mid 60s.
2009 C2S with 25k miles
~10k in options. NAV, sport chrono, bluetooth, ipod, heated/cooled powered seats, bose....
CPO
When i got mine... about 1.5 years ago. Mid 60s.
2009 C2S with 25k miles
~10k in options. NAV, sport chrono, bluetooth, ipod, heated/cooled powered seats, bose....
CPO
Looks like I'm seeing a good $4k-5k negotiated off the list price across the board, that's good to know. Thanks for the offer for the C4S, I'm only looking for a C2S though. Will let you guys know if I can get around to doing some more car hunting!
Up in Fremont there is a guards red 2011 CS, 12,500 miles and certified for $69k. Not highly optioned, but the sport chrono can be installed by dealer for under $2k. Nice wheels, too.
http://livermore.porschedealer.com/c...99583/info.php
Livermore has a 2011 meteor grey CS with sport chrono, sport exhaust, adaptive sport seats and aerokit for $80k. 11,400 miles and certified.
http://www.porscheoffremont.com/cert...14b90f7db3.htm
Both cars are MT.
http://livermore.porschedealer.com/c...99583/info.php
Livermore has a 2011 meteor grey CS with sport chrono, sport exhaust, adaptive sport seats and aerokit for $80k. 11,400 miles and certified.
http://www.porscheoffremont.com/cert...14b90f7db3.htm
Both cars are MT.
I can tell you that at Rusnak Porsche Pasadena a year ago I was able to negotiate $7k off what they were asking for a CPO '08 C2S Cab with lots of options. Paid $55,000 for a car whose original sticker was $107,000.
To be honest, I generally let my wife do the negotiating, as that's what she does for a living. Dealer says: "At that price I'd be losing money." Wife smiles and replies: "Do it anyway." They frequently do. I'd hate to tell you what she paid for her new E350.
There's lots of room for negotiation. How much depends on a number of factors, like color, time of year, time of the month, how long the car's been on the dealer's lot, and more. Be reasonable, but stay firm and be prepared to walk away.
To be honest, I generally let my wife do the negotiating, as that's what she does for a living. Dealer says: "At that price I'd be losing money." Wife smiles and replies: "Do it anyway." They frequently do. I'd hate to tell you what she paid for her new E350.
There's lots of room for negotiation. How much depends on a number of factors, like color, time of year, time of the month, how long the car's been on the dealer's lot, and more. Be reasonable, but stay firm and be prepared to walk away.
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