Hello, i am new to this forum and i am soon to be a first time Porsche owner, i will buy at manual transmission.

I have a few questions regarding set up and milage of a car.

I am looking at a 997.2 09 (january) Carerra, it is a MT with Sport Chrono Plus, however i am unsure wether it has PASM. Is PASM something that I should have in my Porsche or is the PSM enough? The car has roughly 32 000 miles on the clock, is there any weaknesses that i should be particular observant of? Transmission, exhaust, engine?

I am also looking at 997.1 C2S (MT) or C4S (MT) with SportChrono and sports exhaust, most of these are closer to my budget.
Is there a big difference between the 997.1 S models and the 997.2 Carerra with its new engine, when it comes to performance? Anyone here tried both and have a qualified opinion.

looking forward to hearing from you, please feel free to share any info that you fin relevant.

 

PASM and PSM serve completely different functions. PSM would have been standard on all 2009's. It is a stability management/traction control system that helps you maintain control of the car. PASM is an adjustable damping system that was standard on the Carrera S and a fairly rare option on the base Carrera. If the car has it, there will be a button below the AC controls with a shock absorber on it.

Most will tell you that PASM is awesome, and I will not argue. It gives you a slightly lower (10mm) stock setup, a smoother ride when not engaged, and a stiff ride when you want it.

 

I just went from a 997.1S to a 997.2S, and the difference in performance of the two cars was surprising: more than the paper specs would lead you to believe. Drive the two cars yourself and then decide, don't try to judge it just from the HP and torque specifications. Mechanically, I don't know of any specific areas of weakness on the 997.2's. Some consume oil, some produce soot in the exhaust, some had problems with the high-pressure fuel pumps, but those issues should have already been fixed (fuel pump), or you just learn to live with them over time (oil consumption).

 

My first porsche was a 09 carrera 3.6 with the 6 speed. It was one of the Arctic silver launch cars...

Excellent car impressive performance for the claimed horsepower and not major issues. The high pressure fuel pump went on me but covered under the warranty.

IMO I would go with the newest car you can afford...

 

I have a 2010 Carrera S and had a base 2005 Carrera prior.

If your car is gonna be for bombing around on weekends, either is amazing. But if you are gonna use it as a daily driver, get one with PASM or an S model. Very different ride with or without.

If budget is an issue, get a low mileage 997.1 with PASM. Sport chrono is a must option too.

Good luck.

 

Thanks to all of you, it seems like if i am landing on a 2005 997.1 Carerra S, with milage 0f 26 000 miles on it. Sport Chrono, PASM, Adaptive Sport Seats, Sports Exhaust +++ It also just passed an 111 point test. Is there ant concerns i should have with this modell?

 

Read up on IMS bearing failures, as some 2005's built prior to ~ 2/2005 are affected. You can check your VIN against the IMS class action lawsuit list to confirm whether you have the smaller single row bearing or the larger updated bearing.

Link to Class Action VIN Check

Many people steer away from 2005's because of the potential for an IMS failure, but unlike 2006-2008 models, if you have a 2005 with the smaller bearing it can be replaced with an upgraded bearing when you replace the clutch. Check the maintenance history to see if this has already been done.

The car sounds like it is nicely optioned - especially the seats which are arguably the best that Porsche offers. If the 111 point inspection was done by the dealer, you should get your own inspection.

Kit
San Diego

 

Hello Kit, thank you for your input.

I entered the VIN number and this is what I got:

Summary:
Model: Porsche 911 (997)
Manufacture Year: 2005
Assembly Plant: Stuggart
Last Five Digits: BR527
Conclusion:
This is not a Class Vehicle.

Does this mean that this vehicle does not have the smaller bearings, and that it should not be a problem?

Regarding the 111 point check, this was done by Porsche center in Norway, and I have seen the report, it looks fine.

 

If you are not in the class you presumably have the improved bearing. Only Porsche knows the failure rates in the improved design, but reported failures on boards like this are few and far between.

>Regarding the 111 point check, this was done by Porsche center in
>Norway, and I have seen the report, it looks fine.

I missed that you were in Norway. Is the Porsche dealer selling the car, or did they just do the inspection? In the USA, when a Porsche dealer performs a 111-point inspection, it is usually done to certify the car as "Certified Pre-Owned", a program that extends the warranty on used cars by two years. There have been reports (search here for a thread named "my poor car") that dealers have sometimes done sloppy inspections and certified cars that had substantial cosmetic or mechanical problems. Dealers can be unscrupulous, and a third party inspection is money well spent. Are you getting any sort of warranty with the car?

At a minimum, have your Dealer show you the DME over-rev report, which will indicate how often the car has been driven past its red line. There are many posts here on DME reports, but the short story is that the report should show no ignitions past Range 3.

Good Luck!

 

Buy the 997.2. A lot of improvements over the 997.1

 

Thank you for your reply.

The 111 point check is done by Porsche Center, however the car is sold privately. The service history has been validated, however I have not heard about the DME report before. Is this related to cars that have been driven hard?
History of the car is pretty well documented, it was imported from Germany, where it has had one owner, a man bought it for his wife.

I am not sure i can get any guarantee on this car because of the 10 year limitation. Cars like this is very expensive here (USD 100k), therefore i am trying to find most angels.

 

I would, but that car with the right specs and combinations would cost USD 150K, so it is not within my budget.. My plan is to keep the 997.1 for two years, and then upgrade to 09/10 C4S

 

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...late-grey.html

Solid no stories car.

 

Yes. It is an indicator of hard use or missed gear shifts. It's important for cars that are under warranty, because Porsche will use this to deny claims for engine repairs.

 

Sorry, just noticed you're in Norway. Shipping probably counts this one out.