Originally Posted by function12

I did pads on both cars. I don't remember the TT pads being much more if any. You need to check with Suncoast or Sunset on parts pricing.

Originally Posted by RON1X

From what I gather you want a street car over a track car. I also had a fully modded 335i for a few years, then went to an e92 M3. The M3 was far superior, but given it was an NA high-revving V8, it certainly didn't feel as fast as the tuned 335i I had (although for me, I didn't car as I wanted more of a track oriented car). I only say that as context for my next point. You probably won't feel that a NA 997 (.1 or .2) is going to feel "that fast" coming from a high-torque twin turbo 335i. Trust me, I know how fast those cars are and my 335 was still the fastest car I've had driven in a straight line.
911s are more of the whole package; balanced for both agility, power and braking. If you want a street car with power, you would probably be most/only happy with a turbo in my opinion.

Have you not thought about supercharging an E9x M3? Have you thought about the new M3/M4? Those are absolute animals from every review/magazine that is out right now. Trust me though, I much prefer the look of a 911 so I get it.

What is your budget?

Originally Posted by StormRune

I had the go-ahead to buy either a 997.2 S or spend a more to get a very nice 2008 Turbo that were both on the lot at my local dealership. After test driving the the really nicely optioned 2009 C2S PDK, I decided the power was enough (for now - I always keep future options open) and the car was great looking and outfitted with everything I wanted. I just couldn't see forking out the extra money for the Turbo, both up front and for long term maintenance and repair cost risks. I also felt better about knowing that I'd want to spend some money on typical mods, so with the "savings" over the Turbo and the lower cost of mods it made even more sense.

The difference in our two cases was that I also was leaning strongly towards wanting this car to be my DD and the C2S made more sense there too. I still am certain that I made the right choice, but I still won't rule out a Turbo or GT3 in the future (I always like knowing that I can still take a step up later and not feel like I have already reached my peak!).

Originally Posted by function12

My TT is my daily driver. Sitting out in the rain right now. Couldn't ask for a better all round sports car in the rain. AWD is awesome on the road during the heavy downpours. I still don't know where people get the Turbo is higher maintenance but O well. Oil change are the same if you do them yourself. Plugs can be a little higher but that would be the only thing unless you got ceramic brakes.
I am sure you will enjoy your new car. Good luck!

Originally Posted by thedips

997.1 ims and pcm being an issue... easy fix upgrade LN bearing with clutch job less than $1k service and changing out a pcm with some modern touch screen navi with a lot of functionality is easy swap as well. with plenty of money to spare...

Originally Posted by Steve997S

The N54 has the most diminishing high rpm power of any modern motor, stock or modified (even more so modified). Gobs of low end torque and decent mid range surge. Nothing at redline as the power drops like a brick. You can actually feel the power fall off as the rpms rise. I was living in Germany when the N54 hit the market. Drove them all the time at high speed to see how the car reacted when bouncing off the speed limiter. Once it hits the speed limiter, the car has trouble getting back to it because the power crashes heavily at high rpms. So any P car is going to excite versus that bad power experience. Personally I'd rather have a 997.1 turbo than the other 2 options. Buy the power you think you need. Funny that people in America think they need that power. Most just want to feel a little grunt at low to mid rpms as they have no appreciation for true high speed which requires high power through redline. If that's the case, keep what you have.

Originally Posted by GodLy

I am not from America Anyway my goal is to have same power feel (or better) like it was on my n54... So like i understand with 997.2 S i won't get such feeling.. But i will get more stable car at corners and so on.. And if i want to "be clamped to the seat" i need buy 997.1 Turbo. I am right?

Originally Posted by Tcc1999

Just a suggestion, but if the old style PCM is really bothersome you could replace it with an iPad Mini if that suits your tastes. Lots of info and pics in the following links.

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ini-997-a.html

https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...t-997-1-a.html

Originally Posted by saceone

turbo and who cares about the radio

Originally Posted by Steve997S

Nothing feels like a N54 as the powerband is backwards. It's opposite of a linear powerband which builds power with rpms through redline. The N54 is a waterfall. Flat until it drops, which in the last 1,500 rpms it loses 100 ft-lb of torque. I hate that motor.

The 997.2 is so different as at high rpms it's a beast. 997s aren't superb handling cars. You need not think just because it's a Porsche it handles like on rails. Not all do. The only reason a 997 handles as well as it does is due to a host of electronics and wide rubber in the rear for lateral grip.

Originally Posted by WLW@RSC

I have seen countless people get a regular 911 and realize it didn't have enough power and then get a Turbo. If it were my money I would get a turbo. A few years ago I almost bought a c4s with this same dilemma and once I drove the Turbo is was game over. Admittedly this was 996s.