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Old Jul 23, 2014 | 07:40 AM
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stock 997.1 C2s on track, what to watch for?

hi all,


I always wanted to push my 997 to like 200 Km/h or more.
but I have fear about race track. actually not the track itself the D-bag on the track at the same time as me. those D-bag put $10k on their Honda civic and think they can follow a 911 because they have a turbo and generate 400hp. but they still have stock brakes...


so I have the opportunity to get to a highly controlled race track where it will only have 3 other cars at the same time. each can will have a "trainer copilot" and it will be Ferrari or lambo. (so they have brakes :-) )


so, what should I watch for with a stock 997.1 2006 c2s cab, stick?
CPO expired this spring.
parts in direction have been replaced w/alignment
rear tire have about 5000mls, front are new
brakes are at 80% good
new plugs and coil pack
gundo hack is the only mod.

so is there anything I should closely monitor during those 3-4 laps?
are stock brakes pretty resistant?
at what oil temp should I be concerned?
anything else?


thanks :-)
 
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I also have a 997.1 C2S and phage tracked it several times. You have nothing to worry about regarding the car. Get a fresh oil change, brake flush and get the car inspected by a trustworthy independNt. They'll make sure that everything is in tip top shape.
Stock brakes will be fine. I've tracked mine about twenty times and am just now ready for different pads. If you're worried about a D bag in a Honda, run with you're local Porsche club. Then you're surrounded by people with similar valued cars and that will also help you develope your driving style.

Have a great time. It's very addicting. Not the top speed part, the quest for the perfect lap...that doesn't exist. Because once you get close you realize how slow you were going.

I remember I was at thunderhill one weekend and thought I was so fast. Then on Sunday it rained. I realized that I was going just as fast in the wet as I was the day before in the dry.
Going to the track is very humbling. I think that's part of what I like.
 
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You'll be fine but if you want to worry about anything it's oil pressure. Just make sure you have it and you're good. You should also keep an eye on tire pressures as the heat will increase pressures and compromise grip. That depends on the tire and how hard you're pushing it. I try and keep the hot pressures under 40 psi with Michellin Pilot Super sports.

Bring a little extra oil, sunscreen, water and some snacks.
 
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Thanks for the tips guys.
Tires are the Pirelli p zero rosso N.
So what pressure should I put when cold? Garage is around 80F
Oil pressure is usually at 1 on idle but raise very quick. 2000rpm and it's like 3 bar.
Oil have been change 4000km ago.
Dealer looked at the brake fluids and told me it was good. No need to change.
 
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And I don't plan pushing real hard. Just enjoy capabilities of that great car without worrying about cops.
I don't plan on getting tires screaming... :-)
But who knows... It might append :-)
 
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A screaming tire is a happy tire ;-)

As far as pressures go. I wouldn't worry too much about it.myours going to have so much running through your mind that on your first time it's not worth thinking about. Just be smooth, safe and have fun.

Do you heal toe downshift?
 
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That's something I need to learn.
I can downshift and rev-match. But I can't brake at the same time... Will have to work on it... I guess YouTube will be of a great help
 
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You'll be amazed at now much easier it is to HT on the track. After your comfortable just try it. It just seemed to click for me.
 
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I tried with my mazda3 (2005) and it seems way easier than the 997.
when braking with the 997, the gas pedal is way to far for me.
I guess I have to brake harder so I will get closer to the gas pedal...
 
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Originally Posted by gonzo__007
I tried with my mazda3 (2005) and it seems way easier than the 997.
when braking with the 997, the gas pedal is way to far for me.
I guess I have to brake harder so I will get closer to the gas pedal...

Exactly. Get on the brakes hard enough and your feet are right where they need to be.
 
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What to watch for? Resale value

You asked about oil temp. I didn't ask that question before tracking and was concerned when I saw 250. After a little frantic research and a call to my indy, I found out 250 is completely fine and some other cars were running 275.
 

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I have tracked my car for a few years and this is what I have done,

Track tires and wheels, more to save expensive street rubber than anything.
GT3 front and rear brake ducts for extra brake cooling.
Paget or PFC brake pads.
A brake system flush with some type of high quality brake fluid.

The car is fast enough, just learn to drive, these mods just help with having a consistent brake pedal. I just installed the center radiator more for insurance than absolute need.
 
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Originally Posted by Karl B
I have tracked my car for a few years and this is what I have done,

Track tires and wheels, more to save expensive street rubber than anything.
GT3 front and rear brake ducts for extra brake cooling.
Paget or PFC brake pads.
A brake system flush with some type of high quality brake fluid.

The car is fast enough, just learn to drive, these mods just help with having a consistent brake pedal. I just installed the center radiator more for insurance than absolute need.

All valid points but in due time. The stock brakes will get you through no problem. Unless you're doing something wrong. To DE you need to flush fluid every year. When that time comes, switch to a better fluid.
Castrol SRF seems to be the going choice.

Just have fun. The at will outperform you for your first few weekends anyways. ;-)

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