What Supercars could a Supercharged 997 S OUTRUN???
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Originally Posted by 6088TTS
no way no how you'll be catching a 997TT... your potential road kill from that list would be the 996TT(For Sure), 360(For Sure), M6(Depending on Driver), Gallardo(Depending on Driver)... as far as 430, 997TT, Z06, or Murci... you'll be dreaming too hard buddy...
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Originally Posted by 6088TTS
hp doesn't count dude... the 430 is mighty fast... around the same as a 997TT... and besides the 997TT only have around 480 as well... now why would the 997SC take the 430 not the TT, the TT being 4WD...
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Maybe cause The SC997S has the same or even better Power to Weight Ratio PLUS it is a 2WD Vahicle wich means no Great Power Loss through the drivetrain(regarding the 997 TT).
....and what is all that Power Doesnt Count issue.If the Power (along with other parameters) doesnt matter in a Performance Comparisson then what does????
If a SC997S can take out a 997TT it is also sure it can do the same thing with a F430
I also believe that a BMW M6 would be smashed by that car.It weights 1710 Kg. and has about 507 bhp.I have seen a Top Gear Test in wich the Porsche Carrera S wipes out the M6 in a road run with a lot of turns and not the Best Weather.....and thats a standart Carrera S with 355 bhp.Please keep in mind that the M6 has serious Traction Problems against a Carrera.I als own a BMW 650,maybe not the same car but i know how it feels when you put your foot down to the gas.Offcorse i can never be sure about that unless i test it or if someone have anykind of experiance with both of the cars.
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Originally Posted by NikosFindas
.I als own a BMW 650,maybe not the same car but i know how it feels when you put your foot down to the gas.Offcorse i can never be sure about that unless i test it or if someone have anykind of experiance with both of the cars.
My uncle has a 650i and i have a E60 M5.
I drove his car this summer for about total 1000 km in this summer.
I can say comparing traction in standart 650i vs my car is really different. It is like comparing apples to oranges. When you put foot down to the gas on 650 , i know the car stays stable with burning tyres and the back of the car is like an exotic dancer.
I am sure that a well launched M car will never have traction problem on straight line.
But of course on track of course it is different and a big advatange on porsche.
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Originally Posted by NikosFindas
Maybe cause The SC997S has the same or even better Power to Weight Ratio PLUS it is a 2WD Vahicle wich means no Great Power Loss through the drivetrain(regarding the 997 TT).
....and what is all that Power Doesnt Count issue.If the Power (along with other parameters) doesnt matter in a Performance Comparisson then what does????
If a SC997S can take out a 997TT it is also sure it can do the same thing with a F430
I also believe that a BMW M6 would be smashed by that car.It weights 1710 Kg. and has about 507 bhp.I have seen a Top Gear Test in wich the Porsche Carrera S wipes out the M6 in a road run with a lot of turns and not the Best Weather.....and thats a standart Carrera S with 355 bhp.Please keep in mind that the M6 has serious Traction Problems against a Carrera.I als own a BMW 650,maybe not the same car but i know how it feels when you put your foot down to the gas.Offcorse i can never be sure about that unless i test it or if someone have anykind of experiance with both of the cars.
....and what is all that Power Doesnt Count issue.If the Power (along with other parameters) doesnt matter in a Performance Comparisson then what does????
If a SC997S can take out a 997TT it is also sure it can do the same thing with a F430
I also believe that a BMW M6 would be smashed by that car.It weights 1710 Kg. and has about 507 bhp.I have seen a Top Gear Test in wich the Porsche Carrera S wipes out the M6 in a road run with a lot of turns and not the Best Weather.....and thats a standart Carrera S with 355 bhp.Please keep in mind that the M6 has serious Traction Problems against a Carrera.I als own a BMW 650,maybe not the same car but i know how it feels when you put your foot down to the gas.Offcorse i can never be sure about that unless i test it or if someone have anykind of experiance with both of the cars.
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Originally Posted by 6088TTS
if what you are saying is true... then the 997SC should be able to take out much more cars than the F430 or 997TT... the list goes on to Murci, 996GT2 (2004), Corvette Z06, Stock AMG 65s... which have 604hp and 738lb/tq??? now you are just DREAMING... all those cars are all out of the 997SC's league... please refer to facts not fiction...
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I'm not under the illusion that my car is anything other than what it is. But I will say that I'm not sure I understand your logic, based on weight, hp, tq, and gearing, for being so certain that entire list you just gave can wax my car.
Maybe I don't understand the test, and it's all just benchmark racing anyway until we can line some of these up, but 0-60, 60-130, 1/4-mile, or a road course, I would feel comfortable lining up with most of the cars you just mentioned. Actually I would feel comfortable lining up with all of them, and would expect to win at least some of those races, based on what I know of their performance. I've even driven a couple . . .
Maybe I just need to see some stats showing those are all low 11, high 10-second cars and I just haven't been paying attention? Or maybe you don't think the numbers the supercharged cars are making are real? In any event, I'm pretty sure on a road course I would own most of them, but again, maybe I'm just confused. I certainly know that any of those cars are capable of beating my modded car when they are modded, but that wasn't the comparison I don't think.
Maybe I just think it feels fast because my other cars are a Suburban, a 10-year-old 4.0-liter Range Rover, and a 22-year-old 3.0-liter Ferrari. At least I know it will wax all their asses!
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Originally Posted by MexicoBlue
Please refer to facts not fiction? Pretty strong words . . .
I'm not under the illusion that my car is anything other than what it is. But I will say that I'm not sure I understand your logic, based on weight, hp, tq, and gearing, for being so certain that entire list you just gave can wax my car.
Maybe I don't understand the test, and it's all just benchmark racing anyway until we can line some of these up, but 0-60, 60-130, 1/4-mile, or a road course, I would feel comfortable lining up with most of the cars you just mentioned. Actually I would feel comfortable lining up with all of them, and would expect to win at least some of those races, based on what I know of their performance. I've even driven a couple . . .
Maybe I just need to see some stats showing those are all low 11, high 10-second cars and I just haven't been paying attention? Or maybe you don't think the numbers the supercharged cars are making are real? In any event, I'm pretty sure on a road course I would own most of them, but again, maybe I'm just confused. I certainly know that any of those cars are capable of beating my modded car when they are modded, but that wasn't the comparison I don't think.
Maybe I just think it feels fast because my other cars are a Suburban, a 10-year-old 4.0-liter Range Rover, and a 22-year-old 3.0-liter Ferrari. At least I know it will wax all their asses!
I'm not under the illusion that my car is anything other than what it is. But I will say that I'm not sure I understand your logic, based on weight, hp, tq, and gearing, for being so certain that entire list you just gave can wax my car.
Maybe I don't understand the test, and it's all just benchmark racing anyway until we can line some of these up, but 0-60, 60-130, 1/4-mile, or a road course, I would feel comfortable lining up with most of the cars you just mentioned. Actually I would feel comfortable lining up with all of them, and would expect to win at least some of those races, based on what I know of their performance. I've even driven a couple . . .
Maybe I just need to see some stats showing those are all low 11, high 10-second cars and I just haven't been paying attention? Or maybe you don't think the numbers the supercharged cars are making are real? In any event, I'm pretty sure on a road course I would own most of them, but again, maybe I'm just confused. I certainly know that any of those cars are capable of beating my modded car when they are modded, but that wasn't the comparison I don't think.
Maybe I just think it feels fast because my other cars are a Suburban, a 10-year-old 4.0-liter Range Rover, and a 22-year-old 3.0-liter Ferrari. At least I know it will wax all their asses!
Originally Posted by MexicoBlue
I think my car could outrun any M3 in the world! Oops, sorry, wrong thread!
A completely stock 996tt though? I'd like my chances in that race . . .
Not that I'm hating on the 996tt platform. Best around for mods, and I'm sure there's one in my future. But bone stock, I think I could take one from start to finish, but not by a lot.
A completely stock 996tt though? I'd like my chances in that race . . .
Not that I'm hating on the 996tt platform. Best around for mods, and I'm sure there's one in my future. But bone stock, I think I could take one from start to finish, but not by a lot.
Russ you the man!! 997S has proven some fast 1/4 mile times, im sure it would outrun all but Z06, 997TT and possibly F430, F430 is surpisingly and deceivingly very fast, dont sleep on it
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Maybe i gave the wrong impression and lead you guys to wrong conclusions.Please excuse my poor english....My question is if THE SC997S CAN BEAT THOSE CARS IN A STRAIGHT LINE OR IN A TRACK RACE.Either way i just wanted to get an idea of what is that SC system's all about.As i know we should consider most of the factors of the vehicles(Driver,weight,traction,Dc,geometry,power and torque).I really dont see how a 2035 kg weight - 600 BHP SL65 AMG would be so difficult to reach or even beat....Under the same philosophy i strongly believe the SC997S can be a competitor to all of Supercars mentioned on the post here.
Then again...it s just me....
Then again...it s just me....
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Originally Posted by MexicoBlue
Please refer to facts not fiction? Pretty strong words . . .
I'm not under the illusion that my car is anything other than what it is. But I will say that I'm not sure I understand your logic, based on weight, hp, tq, and gearing, for being so certain that entire list you just gave can wax my car.
Maybe I don't understand the test, and it's all just benchmark racing anyway until we can line some of these up, but 0-60, 60-130, 1/4-mile, or a road course, I would feel comfortable lining up with most of the cars you just mentioned. Actually I would feel comfortable lining up with all of them, and would expect to win at least some of those races, based on what I know of their performance. I've even driven a couple . . .
Maybe I just need to see some stats showing those are all low 11, high 10-second cars and I just haven't been paying attention? Or maybe you don't think the numbers the supercharged cars are making are real? In any event, I'm pretty sure on a road course I would own most of them, but again, maybe I'm just confused. I certainly know that any of those cars are capable of beating my modded car when they are modded, but that wasn't the comparison I don't think.
Maybe I just think it feels fast because my other cars are a Suburban, a 10-year-old 4.0-liter Range Rover, and a 22-year-old 3.0-liter Ferrari. At least I know it will wax all their asses!
I'm not under the illusion that my car is anything other than what it is. But I will say that I'm not sure I understand your logic, based on weight, hp, tq, and gearing, for being so certain that entire list you just gave can wax my car.
Maybe I don't understand the test, and it's all just benchmark racing anyway until we can line some of these up, but 0-60, 60-130, 1/4-mile, or a road course, I would feel comfortable lining up with most of the cars you just mentioned. Actually I would feel comfortable lining up with all of them, and would expect to win at least some of those races, based on what I know of their performance. I've even driven a couple . . .
Maybe I just need to see some stats showing those are all low 11, high 10-second cars and I just haven't been paying attention? Or maybe you don't think the numbers the supercharged cars are making are real? In any event, I'm pretty sure on a road course I would own most of them, but again, maybe I'm just confused. I certainly know that any of those cars are capable of beating my modded car when they are modded, but that wasn't the comparison I don't think.
Maybe I just think it feels fast because my other cars are a Suburban, a 10-year-old 4.0-liter Range Rover, and a 22-year-old 3.0-liter Ferrari. At least I know it will wax all their asses!
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Originally Posted by NikosFindas
Maybe i gave the wrong impression and lead you guys to wrong conclusions.Please excuse my poor english....My question is if THE SC997S CAN BEAT THOSE CARS IN A STRAIGHT LINE OR IN A TRACK RACE.Either way i just wanted to get an idea of what is that SC system's all about.As i know we should consider most of the factors of the vehicles(Driver,weight,traction,Dc,geometry,power and torque).I really dont see how a 2035 kg weight - 600 BHP SL65 AMG would be so difficult to reach or even beat....Under the same philosophy i strongly believe the SC997S can be a competitor to all of Supercars mentioned on the post here.
Then again...it s just me....
Then again...it s just me....
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Originally Posted by 6088TTS
a stock SL65 is one of the fastest production car (no limited production) ever made from a roll... still holds true to most moded cars... you'll need a GT700 to out run it... besides the point now if you do chip one with intake and exhaust... not many cars in the world are going to catch it...
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How much HP approx would a 996tt have to have to beat or run even with you?
I dont know how the gearing is at all with the c2...but I could imagine the turbo (both 996 and 997) have enough of a gearing advantage to utilize a bit less hp and still keep up...
Anyway... I would say, short of the zo6 and the f430...you have a pretty damn strong car!
I dont know how the gearing is at all with the c2...but I could imagine the turbo (both 996 and 997) have enough of a gearing advantage to utilize a bit less hp and still keep up...
Anyway... I would say, short of the zo6 and the f430...you have a pretty damn strong car!