Theres a good reason why your truck gives your Vette' fits! Nice bro!

 

Just came across this, pretty interesting stuff:

http://www.rangeracceleration.com/06_Z06_Stk_Tires.html

STOCK (including tires)
60'........1.852 3350 launch rpm, fast clutch release, fast throttle squeeze
330'......4.900
660'......7.356 100.59
1000'.....9.450
1320'...11.223 127.16

The driver I ran across could use this! It would be ugly real quick... (like after 2 seconds instead of after 9 seconds... )

 

Syclones and Typhoons were badass in the early 90's, and you might beat a so/so driver in a C6Z to 60', but there is no way you're quicker (or even close) to 60mph, 80mph, or the 1/4 mile against anyone who can drive.

A stock Syclone reaches 100mph in over 14 seconds. The Z in +/- 8.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GMC_Typhoon

 

FYI lots of Vette driver's can't drive. For instance, I beat a C5 at the 1/8th mile track in my Mom's 2000 Ford Expedition. I used it to haul some equipment for my friends racecar and got bored, so I registered and was seeing how consistent I could get on the tree.

Ended up beating a C5 Vette with the guy's wife in the car.

 

Stock times range from 13 flat to 14 sec stock (depending on which magazine you reference...). 0-60 times are 4.3-5.0 sec stock (depending on which magazine...). But you're right... there's no way a 4.3 sec AWD vehicle will be 'close' to a 3.9 sec RWD vehicle to 60 mph on the street. If you think stock tired Z06's are consistantly pulling sub 2.0 sec 60' times on the street, I'll have some of what you're smoking.

I'm not into magazine racing but it does support what happened in real life. I saw some of the best excuses for losing from the 335 guys on E90post. The best was a guy saying the 335 driver must not have pressed the accelerator "all the way" to the floor. Even though it was the 335 driver who posted he lost, lol.

Why can't people just accept that in this case their favorite car didn't do as well as it would have if a professional driver had been driving it with drag radials on a closed course track???

 

The guys wife must have told him not to drive fast, otherwise there is no way that happened.

 

Your 0-60 estimates are optimistic for the Syclone and pessimistic for the Z.

R & T had it at 5.1 seconds and you're saying it will do 0-60 in 4.3.

Magazines run the Z to 60 in 3.6 - the difference between 3.6 and 5.1 is an eternity.

Here's my 0-60 time 3.787 - 60' is 2.022. Run at 90 degrees F on 30psi stock Supercar EMT's.

I'm not a pro driver by any means, but if a stock Syclone can get within 4 seconds of my 1/8 mile, I'll eat my hat.



Keep dreaming

 

Optimistic for the Syclone?

Car and Driver: 0-60 in 4.3; 1/4 mile in 13 flat
http://www.sportmachines.com/magrack...ver_11-90.html

Hot Rod: 0-60 in 4.6, 1/4 in 13.06 @ 100.2 mph
http://www.sportmachines.com/magrack/hot_rod_10-90.html

Note that R&T showed the same 0-60 of 5.1 for the Typhoon which is the identical drivetrain and weighs 400lbs more. Maybe the R&T test driver for the Sy weighed 400lbs?

I thought I was being optimistic for the Z06..., R&T showed 4.2 sec 0-60 for the Z06 not 3.6 sec. And Edmunds shows a 4.5 sec 0-60 time (http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=107906). That's an eternity of difference from your 3.6 sec.

Also, acceleration is a derivative of velocity, just because you're the first to 60mph doesn't mean you will be ahead of the race when you reach 60mph. You'll see the Sy's taillights before it sees yours.

That's your G-tech time. Why doesn't anyone use G-tech time as an official time? hmmmm? Stock Sy's have registered 3.3-3.4 sec on a G-tech and still have a 13 sec 1/4 mile time. Something to do with the launch screwing 'em up.

Uh, I think I could do it within 4 seconds.

Although factory rated at 280hp/380tq, stock Sy's have dyno'd 292hp and 427tq to the wheels on an AWD dyno. With that tq and relatively low hp, they are built for 0-60 and stoplight to stoplight racing. Above 80mph, it's like hitting a brick wall in the Sy. It's unreal how the rate of acceleration slows.

I won't race a Z06 (or any other car for that matter) above 80mph for the same reason a Z06 owner wouldn't race me in the rain. It's no contest (and a heck of a speeding ticket).

 

3.7 seconds for the Z06 is extremely optimistic for me... After I spin, regain traction, restart the car, get it straight again, find first again, and then roll into 60... I'm pushing 15 seconds...

 

I didn't mean to cause so much consternation.

In your 4.3 second citing, remember that C&D doesn't consider the rollout - add .3 seconds.

Let's 'agree' that a good time of the Syc is actually 4.6 seconds.

That is neither the best, nor the mean time of a C6Z (Edmunds 'testing' not withstanding).

Regarding the Gtech, it's accurate enough to make my point. Why don't you run your Sy on a Gtech and post your times up for comparison?

Look, the Syclone is 'quick' out of the hole because it has 4wd, not because it has superpowers. My old Jeep Grand Cherokee was probably faster to 60' than my Z, but I didn't think I was going to be ahead of a 505hp/3130lb supercar at 300'.

You may want to continue to hope for short blocks (or rain) for your stoplight to stoplight 'racing'.

 

superpowers? like the magical Z06?

It is the 'quickest' stock production truck ever produced. The reason it launches so well is the AWD and 380+lbft of torque. It's also super easy to launch at its limit on the street. Apply brakes, push accelerator to bring boost to 10psi... let go of brakes and you're gone.

What is the 0.3 sec thing you are talking about for C&D? If the Sy is not brake launched (only possible from a standing start), the 0-60 will definitely be over 5 sec.

You can continue to hope that the streets are made of sticky tar and are as long as runways.

That's the things with Syclones, nobody thinks a truck can launch that hard on the street.
[MEDIA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-f3xDWNVag[/MEDIA]

BTW, the point of my thread was I will probably begin modding it. For under $1000, 0-60 in the mid 3's. The truck is down right now as I'm prepping it for upgrades. Just installed a baja spec front propshaft and I'm replacing the braking system because of an issue with the front right caliper. Figured might as well replace the lines, etc since it is 17 years old. I looked at putting in a set of Z06 rotors and calipers (they are direct bolt on) but I would have to add larger wheels. They just don't fit under the stock 16" wheels.

Enjoy the Top Gear review, lol. It's bad quality but it gives you an idea of the era it's from. "Poison" by Alice Cooper is the 'hip' song in it.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFTgZWHHR0g[/media]

Jeremy looks way young too!

 

The Top Gear review was hysterical... Clarkson was young!

 

.3 seconds for the rollout - aka, the time it takes for a car/truck to move 1' - some magazines add that time to the 0-60 and some don't. C&D doesn't, hence the need to add it to the 4.3 time you cited.

My updated 'uh oh' list:

997TT
CGT
LP640
Veyron
McLaren F1
Enzo
599 Fiorano
Mercedes SLR
2008 Viper
Syclone

 

LMAO, nice.

My "uh oh" list:
Just about everything over 60mph or in a turn.
Drag radials

 

What engine is in it? 4.3 turbo? Those trucks are nasty, same with the typhoon, they are getting more and more rare as time goes on. Monetarily you might want to keep the miles down and keep it stock.
Of course then you get back to what fun is it if you can't drive it.