Why so much lag
Why so much lag
Critics of the 997 turbo complain about all of the lag. The same critics applaud cars like the bmw 335 and the nissan gt-r for having barely perceptible lag. The same goes for the VW 2.0l motor. Porsche has been running turbos for over 20 years! And porsche has VTG which
claims to reduce lag! What gives?
claims to reduce lag! What gives?
Critics of the 997 turbo complain about all of the lag. The same critics applaud cars like the bmw 335 and the nissan gt-r for having barely perceptible lag. The same goes for the VW 2.0l motor. Porsche has been running turbos for over 20 years! And porsche has VTG which
claims to reduce lag! What gives?
claims to reduce lag! What gives?
Excellent question. I honestly can't remember. that Fifth Gear episode talks about it a little, rather it talks about the gt-r's lack there of. I think R&T and car & driver both mention it too. And I know that European car has mentioned it often.
Depends on your definition of "lag". Full boost at 1800-2000 rpms is not "much lag" if you ask me. If you want to experience turbo lag go drive a single turbo 930 or 964. Big difference compared to the twins.
My M3 had a VATN turbo and had a little lag...15 psi at 1800 rpms. The VTG feels much more responsive than my M3 IMO.
My M3 had a VATN turbo and had a little lag...15 psi at 1800 rpms. The VTG feels much more responsive than my M3 IMO.
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All turbos have some degree of lag - it's the nature of the mechanics. The turbos are dependent on exhaust flow while a supercharged engine has a drive belt.
Depends on your definition of "lag". Full boost at 1800-2000 rpms is not "much lag" if you ask me. If you want to experience turbo lag go drive a single turbo 930 or 964. Big difference compared to the twins.
My M3 had a VATN turbo and had a little lag...15 psi at 1800 rpms. The VTG feels much more responsive than my M3 IMO.
My M3 had a VATN turbo and had a little lag...15 psi at 1800 rpms. The VTG feels much more responsive than my M3 IMO.
So here's another question. The veins in the turbo seem to change degree in response to boost pressure (I guess). I wonder if it would be better to electronically link it to rpms? That way the beins would always be at the exact optimal degree to maximize boost when the accelerator is pressed. That should take away some of the "lag."
Yes, it does have a lot of lag...it's annoying, but I love the car anyway. It's relative, though...less than the old 930 turbo, more than a 335i. In fact, it also has more lag than the 3000GT VR-4 and RX-7TT that I had 15 years ago. A lot of that has to do with the sequential turbos those cars used to build up boost more smoothly, which apparently works better than the VTGs. But beyond that, the overall boost and power output of the car are to blame. You're going to feel more lag getting 500 hp out of a 3.6L engine with turbos than you are getting 300 hp out of a 3.0L, no matter what you do.
...We're talking about Porsche here. Why do you TT drivers put up with it? If i was spending 120k or more on a Porsche turbo I would want the most lag-free turbo engine on the planet.
Porsche needs to step it up.
Porsche needs to step it up.



