997 Turbo / GT2 2006–2012 Turbo discussion on the 997 model Porsche 911 Twin Turbo.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: HBI Auto

Painted interior parts & Q about Upper Door Trims

Thread Tools
 
Rate Thread
 
Old May 8, 2009 | 02:20 PM
  #1  
taylorcoleman's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,203
From: Pittsburgh
Rep Power: 100
taylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond repute
Painted interior parts & Q about Upper Door Trims

So, since taking delivery on my Guards Red 997 TT, I've been doings some interior pieces painted in Guards Red. So far I've done:

* Cupholder trim (including to left of steering wheel)
* Rear center console
* Instrument surround

I think it looks phenominal (being that I love red, and love the gloss finish of the exterior paint on the inside of my car).

However, I need a few more splashes of red to round it out. So I've decided upon doing:

* Dome surround (interior light w/ the garage door switches)
* Seatbelt trims
* Upper door trims (where the door handle is, and the window switches)

I'm using Bumperplugs (forum sponsor) by the way for the parts.

I'm told that the Upper Door Trims has platic-welded to the door. So removing the OEM part, and intalling the new painted part takes quite a bit of labor. I'm quoted about 5 hours for removal and installation (for both doors). Does this seem correct?

When all is through, I'll post the interior pics.

Oh, and I'm throwing on a short-shifter while I'm in the shop as well.
 
Old May 8, 2009 | 02:26 PM
  #2  
taylorcoleman's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,203
From: Pittsburgh
Rep Power: 100
taylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond repute
Oh, and by the way, the ordering process through BumperPlugs (which included a custom order off the standard online ordering sheet, and core exchange) process was very simple. So I recommend them so far for being very easy to order from. I'll let you all know about the quality once I get the parts, but I'm sure the quality will be top-notch.
 
Old May 8, 2009 | 06:35 PM
  #3  
raclaims's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,405
From: New Jersey
Rep Power: 86
raclaims is a splendid one to beholdraclaims is a splendid one to beholdraclaims is a splendid one to beholdraclaims is a splendid one to beholdraclaims is a splendid one to beholdraclaims is a splendid one to beholdraclaims is a splendid one to behold
Sounds cool...can't wait to see the pics
 
Old May 9, 2009 | 08:31 PM
  #4  
997tt RS 2.7's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 515
From: Unknown
Rep Power: 48
997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of
Originally Posted by taylorcoleman
So, since taking delivery on my Guards Red 997 TT, I've been doings some interior pieces painted in Guards Red. So far I've done:

* Cupholder trim (including to left of steering wheel)
* Rear center console
* Instrument surround

I think it looks phenominal (being that I love red, and love the gloss finish of the exterior paint on the inside of my car).

However, I need a few more splashes of red to round it out. So I've decided upon doing:

* Dome surround (interior light w/ the garage door switches)
* Seatbelt trims
* Upper door trims (where the door handle is, and the window switches)

I'm using Bumperplugs (forum sponsor) by the way for the parts.

I'm told that the Upper Door Trims has platic-welded to the door. So removing the OEM part, and intalling the new painted part takes quite a bit of labor. I'm quoted about 5 hours for removal and installation (for both doors). Does this seem correct?

When all is through, I'll post the interior pics.

Oh, and I'm throwing on a short-shifter while I'm in the shop as well.
i was told the same thing about the plastic seal (possible leak issue later). the whole door panel needs to be reordered OEM with the painted "door finisher". opted against it too pricey; i painted the door opener instead, came out great! let me know if the ordered parts from Bumperplugs color match? had issues with color matching with dealer. please PM. thanx
 
Old May 10, 2009 | 04:51 AM
  #5  
cayenne_ksa's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,108
From: denver/Saudi
Rep Power: 165
cayenne_ksa has a reputation beyond reputecayenne_ksa has a reputation beyond reputecayenne_ksa has a reputation beyond reputecayenne_ksa has a reputation beyond reputecayenne_ksa has a reputation beyond reputecayenne_ksa has a reputation beyond reputecayenne_ksa has a reputation beyond reputecayenne_ksa has a reputation beyond reputecayenne_ksa has a reputation beyond reputecayenne_ksa has a reputation beyond reputecayenne_ksa has a reputation beyond repute
same thing here I ended up painting the opener it self and it looks great
 
Old May 10, 2009 | 06:33 AM
  #6  
taylorcoleman's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,203
From: Pittsburgh
Rep Power: 100
taylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by 997tt RS 2.7
i was told the same thing about the plastic seal (possible leak issue later). the whole door panel needs to be reordered OEM with the painted "door finisher". opted against it too pricey; i painted the door opener instead, came out great! let me know if the ordered parts from Bumperplugs color match? had issues with color matching with dealer. please PM. thanx
Hmmm. 2 posts about potential seal problems w/ water entry. BumperPlugs sells that door trim piece on their standard parts list. I wonder if most people buy the whole interior OEM door piece and add it, which of course, is not worth the $$ (to me at least).

I guess I'm just not understanding how this piece--if removed and installed again--can cause a potential leak. Given the window openers and door handle are housed there, I'd think that piece would need to be easily removed if something went wrong with either the window wiring or the door mechanics.

Maybe I should reconsider, and stop the order from BumperPlugs and just do the door handle...

Thanks for the info.
 
Old May 10, 2009 | 07:50 AM
  #7  
997tt RS 2.7's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 515
From: Unknown
Rep Power: 48
997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of
Originally Posted by taylorcoleman
Hmmm. 2 posts about potential seal problems w/ water entry. BumperPlugs sells that door trim piece on their standard parts list. I wonder if most people buy the whole interior OEM door piece and add it, which of course, is not worth the $$ (to me at least).

I guess I'm just not understanding how this piece--if removed and installed again--can cause a potential leak. Given the window openers and door handle are housed there, I'd think that piece would need to be easily removed if something went wrong with either the window wiring or the door mechanics.

Maybe I should reconsider, and stop the order from BumperPlugs and just do the door handle...

Thanks for the info.
they have to "break" OEM seal to install piece that's why possible "seal"
problem. could work only if Bumperplug part is an overlay, which IMO would not look OEM? dealer suggested taping borders then paint; too risky getting it on leather did door handle instead; worked out great
if something went wrong with window switches they remove the whole panel; go figure? good luck
 
Old May 10, 2009 | 08:32 AM
  #8  
Eric (Plug Guy)'s Avatar
Former Vendor
20 Year Member
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 4,034
Rep Power: 0
Eric (Plug Guy) has a reputation beyond reputeEric (Plug Guy) has a reputation beyond reputeEric (Plug Guy) has a reputation beyond reputeEric (Plug Guy) has a reputation beyond reputeEric (Plug Guy) has a reputation beyond reputeEric (Plug Guy) has a reputation beyond reputeEric (Plug Guy) has a reputation beyond reputeEric (Plug Guy) has a reputation beyond reputeEric (Plug Guy) has a reputation beyond reputeEric (Plug Guy) has a reputation beyond reputeEric (Plug Guy) has a reputation beyond repute
The part we provide is oem, from Germany, then we add our finish work. We've been selling these for years to dealers and customers with zero problems. The posts inside the door accept the plastic sleeves on the back side of the part, and are melted into position. It's a pretty straightforward install, but five hours seems high. I'd bet it's less than an hour each side. No issues on seals, water or any other problems. When the job is done, the car is buttoned up just like new and the color is stunning.


 

Last edited by Eric (Plug Guy); May 10, 2009 at 08:37 AM.
Old May 10, 2009 | 08:43 AM
  #9  
taylorcoleman's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,203
From: Pittsburgh
Rep Power: 100
taylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by Eric (Plug Guy)
The part we provide is oem, from Germany, then we add our finish work. We've been selling these for years to dealers and customers with zero problems. The posts inside the door accept the plastic sleeves on the back side of the part, and are melted into position. It's a pretty straightforward install, but five hours seems high. I'd bet it's less than an hour each side. No issues on seals, water or any other problems. When the job is done, the car is buttoned up just like new and the color is stunning.


Eric--yes, it's beautiful work indeed! I love it. Unfortunately, my dealer is charging me nearly $600 for the removal and installation (which I was not aware of when I ordered the part) and some other members here have been concerned about the seal being broken and water causing potential damage (I also assume wind noise potential).

I'd love to keep the door trim order with you, however, the concerns & cost of install are too significant, I believe.

If you're able to speak to my dealer (you know the contact person), and can help them understand the install process, and get the install fee down to 2-3 hours max, I'll keep the order for this product. Will that work?

Else, I'll order the painted door handles through you instead.

Thanks again Eric. Been great working with you. By the time we're done doing business together, I fear the entire interior of my car will be guards red
 
Old May 10, 2009 | 09:10 AM
  #10  
sparkhill's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,252
From: Reno, NV
Rep Power: 144
sparkhill Is a GOD !sparkhill Is a GOD !sparkhill Is a GOD !sparkhill Is a GOD !sparkhill Is a GOD !sparkhill Is a GOD !sparkhill Is a GOD !sparkhill Is a GOD !sparkhill Is a GOD !sparkhill Is a GOD !sparkhill Is a GOD !
Originally Posted by Eric (Plug Guy)
Lots going on there.... red, volcano gray, black, sand beige, aluminum, aluminum look. I think the steering wheel and PCM need to be red to minimize the volcano gray.

The leak concern is a non-issue in my opinion. Eric has been at this a long time and has a reputation.
 

Last edited by sparkhill; May 10, 2009 at 09:12 AM.
Old May 10, 2009 | 10:06 AM
  #11  
997tt RS 2.7's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 515
From: Unknown
Rep Power: 48
997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of
Originally Posted by Eric (Plug Guy)
The part we provide is oem, from Germany, then we add our finish work. We've been selling these for years to dealers and customers with zero problems. The posts inside the door accept the plastic sleeves on the back side of the part, and are melted into position. It's a pretty straightforward install, but five hours seems high. I'd bet it's less than an hour each side. No issues on seals, water or any other problems. When the job is done, the car is buttoned up just like new and the color is stunning.


hi eric
looks great. do you have "guards red" on the surround of the light dial? very interested. my problem is your red looks different from the red the dealer painted in my tt! i think the shop that painted my interior trim were "clueless"! my red looks alot deeper. also interested in the dome surround & panel (jump start/battery) by the aluminum rest pedal. please reply or PM thanx plus you are assuming the dealer knows how to place the part correctly; IMO i don't think they do! wish you were in my area!
 

Last edited by 997tt RS 2.7; May 10, 2009 at 10:09 AM.
Old May 10, 2009 | 10:13 AM
  #12  
997tt RS 2.7's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 515
From: Unknown
Rep Power: 48
997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of
Originally Posted by taylorcoleman
Eric--yes, it's beautiful work indeed! I love it. Unfortunately, my dealer is charging me nearly $600 for the removal and installation (which I was not aware of when I ordered the part) and some other members here have been concerned about the seal being broken and water causing potential damage (I also assume wind noise potential).

I'd love to keep the door trim order with you, however, the concerns & cost of install are too significant, I believe.

If you're able to speak to my dealer (you know the contact person), and can help them understand the install process, and get the install fee down to 2-3 hours max, I'll keep the order for this product. Will that work?

Else, I'll order the painted door handles through you instead.

Thanks again Eric. Been great working with you. By the time we're done doing business together, I fear the entire interior of my car will be guards red
hi, make sure the "red" parts match! the parts that sewickley painted "red" on my tt look deeper than Eric's dealer body shop is clueless!
 
Old May 10, 2009 | 10:24 AM
  #13  
997tt RS 2.7's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 515
From: Unknown
Rep Power: 48
997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of
Originally Posted by Eric (Plug Guy)
The part we provide is oem, from Germany, then we add our finish work. We've been selling these for years to dealers and customers with zero problems. The posts inside the door accept the plastic sleeves on the back side of the part, and are melted into position. It's a pretty straightforward install, but five hours seems high. I'd bet it's less than an hour each side. No issues on seals, water or any other problems. When the job is done, the car is buttoned up just like new and the color is stunning.


hi again
i see you painted part below hand brake; looks great, got rid of that ugly "black" plastic piece! also that plastic part between gear lever assembly and center stack is "red". i would be interested in doing both of those. can you match the color dealer did if i send you a part? please PM thanks
 
Old May 10, 2009 | 10:29 AM
  #14  
997tt RS 2.7's Avatar
Registered User
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 515
From: Unknown
Rep Power: 48
997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of997tt RS 2.7 has much to be proud of
Originally Posted by Eric (Plug Guy)
The part we provide is oem, from Germany, then we add our finish work. We've been selling these for years to dealers and customers with zero problems. The posts inside the door accept the plastic sleeves on the back side of the part, and are melted into position. It's a pretty straightforward install, but five hours seems high. I'd bet it's less than an hour each side. No issues on seals, water or any other problems. When the job is done, the car is buttoned up just like new and the color is stunning.


do you have anybody in my area (within 2-3hrs) that can install your parts like OEM. willing to travel to have job done right.
 
Old May 10, 2009 | 11:06 AM
  #15  
taylorcoleman's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Registered User
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,203
From: Pittsburgh
Rep Power: 100
taylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond reputetaylorcoleman has a reputation beyond repute
Sounds if there there are two very different camps on the door trim. In one camp, the verdict is not being able to seal the door properly. In the other, that should not be a problem with a proper install.

Anyone else have experience on this matter? If there is 1 thing I can't stand, is rattles and wind noise (make that 2 things).
 


You have already rated this thread Rating: Thread Rating: 0 votes,  average.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:38 PM.