If 500HP of Direct Fuel Injection is not enough for the new 2010 Porsche 997.2 Turbo owners, we have upped the bar with a new OBDII ECU Flash. The ECU Flash adds about 75HP to the crank by adjusting the boost from .7bar to 1.0bar and changing fuel and timing maps. That would make you a ZR1 killer, Viper Killer, GT2 Killer, and lets see, probably everything else out of the box! Now for the official PR:

Vivid Racing now offers a new tuning system which you can read more about at www.vrtuned.com. We are no longer affiliated with or represent the other product.

 

WOW thats great. good luck with the new tune. everybody should get it.

 

Will it void factory warranty? I really want to pull the trigger but i'm intimidated about the warranty issue. Hm.......

 

Read through this currently running thread, Softronic Software Criticism. It might help with your decision. Good luck.

 

Thanks TTDude!

 

We provide you with your TRUE ORIGINAL file. So if you load that back to the car before you go in for any major service where Porsche would connect with the PIWIS tool, there is no detection and therefore your warranty is safe

Call me to order.

 

You just can't make those claims. Porsche can void your power-train warranty if the ECU is modified in any way, period. In the case of a catastrophic engine failure, Porsche will likely pull the motor and ECU, send both to Germany, and look very closely with tools more powerful than PIWIS.

Continuously repeating that the factory warranty is safe with a Softronic tune will not make it true. You have a better reputation than that.

 

If you put the True Original File back in the car, there is absolutely no detection of the ECU modified period end of story. You have a built car that is done so why do you keep trying to add your opinion. The end of the day is exactly what I said, your TRUE Original file is that, your Original file so there is nothing to report by the PIWIS. If you are worrying about your engine blowing up from a simple tune, you shouldnt be as that will not happen.

You made your 2cents now keep it that way.

 

The only reason I keep adding my "opinion" is that you are a trusted source of information on this forum and, in this particular case, you are obscuring the truth. Third-party ECU modification provides Porsche with sufficient cause to invalidate your factory power-train warranty, period.

I agree that it is very unlikely people are going to have issues with an ECU tune and it may even be possible that Porsche may not find out that you flashed your car. But those two things are very different from guaranteeing that one particular ECU flash keeps your factory warranty intact.

It is like breaking into somebody's garage and stealing their car but having a change of heart and returning the car before the owner even realizes it was gone. Even if you get away with it, you are still a car thief and nobody can guarantee that, even though you returned the car, you will never be prosecuted.

Softronic is a good fit for a lot of people. I only have issues with you making factory warranty guarantees you cannot possibly honor. If I am wrong, please ask any one of the other sponsors step up and say so.

 

[QUOTE=sparkhill;2811427]The only reason I keep adding my "opinion" is that you are a trusted source of information on this forum and, in this particular case, you are obscuring the truth. Third-party ECU modification provides Porsche with sufficient cause to invalidate your factory power-train warranty, period.


Yes I am a trusted source... So I would not put my skin out there fyi. 2nd about your underline comment, if you put the original file back in the car and there is nothing to detect, then Porsche cannot void your warranty, simple.

Now I ask nicely, please keep this in the OTHER post as this is a product press release.

 

I think when a bold claim is made (even in a product release) such as "your warranty is safe" with an aftermarket flash, one has to expect skepticism and welcome the opportunity to defend the statement. You say there is "nothing to detect"--well, they can detect overrevs and whether you are bouncing off red-line at 7250 which your flash (and many others) allow, then you start praying that your warranty is safe. You have a good product at very reasonable costs. That is the reason why customers are attracted to your product line, imho.

 

If you load the ORIGINAL file back to the car, they cannot detect overrevs. You might want to talk to your own tuner Protomotive about that. Softronic and Proto share many files and work together. Protomotive uses the Softronic flasher client to load files via the OBDII for customers that dont bring the car to them. Seperately, please do a search and find me a case where a warranty claim has gone back to Germany and traced to a ECU flash...

 

I've worked on teams that did low level chip / BIOS programming. The only way that IMO this could be undetectable is if the entire flash (like an EEPROM) was wiped, and totally reprogrammed. Who is to say Porsche doesn't have a bit here and there, stashed information that is not wiped away once the "original file" is reflashed. I know if it was me writing the ECU program I would keep a small area outside of the flashable zone that records flash activity. Failure on 4/1/10, flash on 3/31/10... Hmmm. It's up to the firmware designer what is a flashable zone and what appears to be just NAND gates sitting around spare. But are they spare? Could you tell if there was a flash history stored encrypted in there, somewhere in the zones below where the OBD port flasher can access?

This is not to knock Vivid or this tune. I would consider it once I am comfortable with the long term health of my car. I flashed away the warranty on my Lotus knowingly. I just think that unless Porsche endorses it, you'll always have moral or technological gray areas.

 

Good point, and as one of the officials responsible for data checking Porsche race cars at events, Scott Slauson of Softronic is well aware of this. We have mentioned this before but might have gotten lossed. The main difference here is that when we say original, it is the file that was in the car complete before the tuned file was loaded. Not a generic stock file like others. People are missing that point. So when you load the original file back to the car, you are in essence wiping it like you are saying or Totally Reprogramming it back to the Original. We are pulling the full 1mb of the file, not part of it.

I am done here PS how you liking the 135I. Loved mine. Just sold it. www.vividracing.com/forums/project-135i

 

I have talked to my tuner extensively about stuff like this which is why I went with him because I was able to connect with everything he was saying. Unless I misunderstood, overrevs are in a separate chip. You would have to physically mod them.

I'm done here too. All the info is out and people can decide on their preferences. Congrats on your new product release.