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Old Nov 29, 2014 | 06:19 PM
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what are your thoughts on a 2010 997.2 tt as a daily driver? 2010 is model year where they did the lci in addition to pdk and new 3.8l engine.

my thoughts are:

1. i see alot of turbo s for sale and they have ccb and center lock wheels. after much research, most likely i will be swapping to steal bbk to avoid heavy costs. the center lock wheels also have a maintenance program (not sure exact details) & not sure if possible to swap to regular bolts.

2. the engines are easily dropped for maintenance but costly.

what else should i be asking or looking into?

i will always love bmw but having them for so long and depreciation working it's magic, i might make the jump .
 
Old Nov 29, 2014 | 07:17 PM
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My understanding is that if you're not tracking the car, just replace the pads around 50% or less wear life and your PCCB's should last the lifetime you have the car.... assuming that's true (I think it is), you're wasting money by replacing them... and will hurt resale. The centerlock wheels aren't that expensive to replace -- not any more than regular Turbo II wheels... not sure where you're getting you're information from.

The engines are costly? I don't think any more than a current gen M series BMW motor. Additionally, maintenance is pretty cheap on the 911. My 10k service wasn't bad.

Just make sure you get a PPI from a reputable Porsche dealer and I think you're pretty safe. Also have them check the PCCB's to ensure no damage, and no over revs if you're going 6 speed.
 
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^ thanks for your input. based on suncoast, front ccb pads are $369 & $325 rear totaling $694 for all corners which is not bad at all.

my major concern is the rotor as they are $9,400 for front & $8,000 for rear. i don't intend on tracking but is there any ways the rotor can be damaged such as stone chip between pads, etc?

as for the engine, i was meaning to say it seems easily dropped for service such as spark plugs, etc.

the center lock i got it from suncoast as well although i may be overstating that one https://www.suncoastparts.com/catego...cmaintADD.html
 
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Personally, I wanted to avoid the PCCB's and centerlocks for those reasons. Simple solution, get a regular Turbo with all the right options for less money. Virtually all the performance and less hassles. You can find an S without centerlocks, but they are really rare.
 
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I don't think it's anything to worry about -- just inspect them frequently. The brake feel is worth it to me so I took the risk. I really think you'll be fine -- people have been daily driving these cars with PCCB without issues for a long time now.
 
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I have ~35k miles on my 2012 TTS DD with PCCB and centerlocks, ~10k since June 2014 with no problem whatsoever. As the top of the line 911, the TTS deserves PCCB with centerlocks.
 
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My 2008 TT cabriolet is my DD. It has the PCCB option and I love it. I've had no issues at all. I'm still on my original pads at 36K miles.
 
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I have a 2011 TTS cab without center locks. I liked the look of centerlocks, but was willing to go without them because this car had everything else I wanted.
 
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My 2012 TTS is my daily driver.
It is an absolutely epic driver and puts a smile on my face every time I see it.
I have and love the pccb and center locks and have had no issues.
It is a real joy to never have to clean break dust from large wheels.
 
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Originally Posted by 4flynlow
My 2012 TTS is my daily driver.
It is an absolutely epic driver and puts a smile on my face every time I see it.
I have and love the pccb and center locks and have had no issues.
It is a real joy to never have to clean break dust from large wheels.
Totally agree... My 2010 is my dd and the pedal feel and initial 'bite' is much improved over the steel brakes (imho). The lack of brake dust is also a huge bonus. I would never go back to steel.
 
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Personally, no PCCB's on a turbo is a deal breaker for me. Go for it!
 
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^ thanks for input guys.

is there anything in particular i should be worried about on 2010 997.2 tt? recalls, known issues, etc?
 
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I drive my Turbo S everyday. Just actually took it from NYC to South Florida and back a couple weeks ago. Great daily driver and long distance cruiser.
 
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Originally Posted by hlOm4n
^ thanks for input guys.

is there anything in particular i should be worried about on 2010 997.2 tt? recalls, known issues, etc?

I've lingered around the forums for a year and half and I just recently purchased my 997.2 TT. When you find the right one make sure you do your research on the vehicle. I have the PCCB and Center lock wheels but those were requirements that I wanted. I highly recommend running a PPI on the vehicle... its not much but anything helps considering you're about to spend some serious cash. That alone will tell you what you need to be concerned about etc. Goodluck.
 
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I guess I'm in the minority here. I looked for a 997 TT specifically without center locks and PCCB's. I didn't want to damage the brakes and have a really expensive rotor issue on my hands.

Regarding the center lock wheels I didn't like the added effort/tools necessary to take the wheels off and put them back on. That's one of the reasons I didn't want a GTS.

The engine may be easy to drop but the plugs are a royal pain to get to because several of them are behind the turbochargers. It's a lot easier and cheaper to do a spark plug replacement on an S or 4s.

You'll want to see if the previous owner did a coolant line fix on it. That's about a $5k cost to drop the engine and pin or weld the lines and the instances of this happening are increasing as the cars get more age on them. I know they're happening on the 997.1's and I'd assume it's the same thing for the 997.2's but not 100% positive. Maybe someone can correct me on that.
 

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