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Old Oct 28, 2015 | 11:47 AM
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Thumbs up 997.1 Turbo Intercooler upgrade - another great alternative

We wanted to let you guys know of a great new intercooler upgrade by our friends at do88 for the 997.1 turbos. It is another great alternative as the end tanks are cast and backed by proper CFD analysis. There is no chance of end tanks popping off or breaking under higher boost as it can be the case with the OEM 997.1/997.2 units.

The intercooler kit comes with all associated hardware required and will bolt up without any adjustments/trimming/cutting of the OEM intercooler ducting. They also come with much better silicone piping included.

To get the most out of the upgrade a set of turbo intake hoses can also be bundled with them for a really great well rounded intake/intercooler upgrade that far surpasses what the OEM hardware especially at higher boost levels.

Here are some pictures of the kit and some flow and IAT numbers that do88 has gathered comparing them to the OEM 996 GT2 and 997.1 Turbo intercoolers.

Price/performance metrics on this kit especially when bundled with the turbo inlet pipes are really hard to beat out there that is for sure.

Let us know if any questions at all. earl3, you might like this

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Old Oct 28, 2015 | 12:31 PM
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I assume that graph with 997.1/do88/AWE IC's has removed the 997.2 IC's on purpose, and that the thread title is misspelled since it should say "commpared to 997.1 IC's"



Seriously remove this thread if you cant (dont dare) put the 997.2 data in the same chart.
 
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Inte så dyrt om beställt direkt från Nykvarn heller...
 
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xbox_fan, we know very well that OEM 997.2 intercoolers are a great upgrade compared to OEM 997.1 intercoolers. We have run them on our shop's 997.1 Turbo as have many others and there is no argument there.

As for these do88 units, we see them as another great alternative as the cores flow over 40% better than OEM 997.1 cores, have cast end tanks that won't pop off, require no trimming of OEM intercooler ducts, comes with better than OEM silicone piping, and cost less.
 

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In other words they suck compare to 997.2 intercoolers but are cheaper
 
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Nice to have some other reasonably priced options. I am quite happy with their turbo inlet pipes - excellent value for the money and function great. I was hoping that there was a comparison of iat vs speed between the intercoolers, including the AWE ones, and of course the .2tt intercoolers.
 
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Originally Posted by Slate997TT
In other words they suck compare to 997.2 intercoolers but are cheaper
+1

That is still a valid sales reason, but I think yet another vendor IC thread claming to have an "upgrade" over 997.2 IC's in 2015 should be clever/honest enough to include 997.2 test data.

I am a fan if PTF, they do great stuff on several platforms. But I am disappointed in this thread/thread title since it's full of bs...
 
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That temp graph ain't bad per se, but I'd like to see what happens between 200 and 300 km/h. There's plenty of runways in Sweden and still decent weather in southern parts of the country. Pls do few more pulls.
If IAT stabilizes around 45C at about (or below) 250 kmh, those ICs are decent.
 
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Originally Posted by xbox_fan
+1

That is still a valid sales reason, but I think yet another vendor IC thread claming to have an "upgrade" over 997.2 IC's in 2015 should be clever/honest enough to include 997.2 test data.

I am a fan if PTF, they do great stuff on several platforms. But I am disappointed in this thread/thread title since it's full of bs...
No not even the price makes any sense, the 997.2's are $650 each from sonnenporscheoemparts...
 
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Originally Posted by proTUNING Freaks
xbox_fan, we know very well that OEM 997.2 intercoolers are a great upgrade compared to OEM 997.1 intercoolers. We have run them on our shop's 997.1 Turbo as have many others and there is no argument there.

As for these do88 units, we see them as another great alternative as the cores flow over 40% better than OEM 997.1 cores, have cast end tanks that won't pop off, require no trimming of OEM intercooler ducts, comes with better than OEM silicone piping, and cost less.
Well title is better now, I will just enjoy my coffee and stop being grumpy
 
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Is there a hose kit for the 996?
What are the inlet and outlet diameters?

Finally I haven't seen any kits that don't require shaving of the inner small lip inside the duct, will these actually fit flush, any pictures?
 
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Originally Posted by xbox_fan
Well title is better now, I will just enjoy my coffee and stop being grumpy
Grumpy you were!

In terms the 'they suck compared to OEM 997.2 units' comment I'll say it is an unfair statement to do88 given no comparison data was provided there and you can't possibly know if they suck in comparison as comparison has never been made.

997.2 Turbo isn't/wasn't the target platform for this intercooler upgrade and hence no data from do88 on that front. OEM 997.2 intercoolers are great units and they're certainly a great option for some people but they have their shortcomings in fitment which is far from straight bolt-on on either the 996 or 997.1. In fact many aftermarket units for these cars aren't bolt-on and involve trimming the plastic intercooler ducting. Other than that, plastic end tanks should really be epoxied to ensure they don't pop off under high boost (not pretty and may not be done right by your average DIY-er and in most cases just looks like something that shouldn't be done on a 911 turbo) and you need to invent a way to secure them with zip ties/wire etc. Believe it or not, many people out there do not want to be doing that and find that they shouldn't be doing that with their cars.

At the end of the day this to us is another very well designed bolt on option that brings considerable value at a very reasonable cost especially when coupled in a package with their already proven silicone inlet pipes.
 
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Originally Posted by proTUNING Freaks
Grumpy you were!

In terms the 'they suck compared to OEM 997.2 units' comment I'll say it is an unfair statement to do88 given no comparison data was provided there and you can't possibly know if they suck in comparison as comparison has never been made.

997.2 Turbo isn't/wasn't the target platform for this intercooler upgrade and hence no data from do88 on that front. OEM 997.2 intercoolers are great units and they're certainly a great option for some people but they have their shortcomings in fitment which is far from straight bolt-on on either the 996 or 997.1. In fact many aftermarket units for these cars aren't bolt-on and involve trimming the plastic intercooler ducting. Other than that, plastic end tanks should really be epoxied to ensure they don't pop off under high boost (not pretty and may not be done right by your average DIY-er and in most cases just looks like something that shouldn't be done on a 911 turbo) and you need to invent a way to secure them with zip ties/wire etc. Believe it or not, many people out there do not want to be doing that and find that they shouldn't be doing that with their cars.

At the end of the day this to us is another very well designed bolt on option that brings considerable value at a very reasonable cost especially when coupled in a package with their already proven silicone inlet pipes.
+1
Thanks for sharing.
Great to have more options out there, and a direct bolt on is definitely a huge bonus I'm sure most will appreciate!
 
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Were is the weakness on most turbo setups? Guess the real question is, how do you use your setup?


Granite, I beat the hell out of my GT2 RS intercoolers but, this is one of the reasons that you may want to consider some other options. Tracking the car relates to quick heat dissipation. My GT2 intercoolers were burning JB weld with my stock VTG's. Is it thickness, material, or a combination of both?


Ohh, btw, I cut the hell out of my ducts to make them fit.


What is the Heat soaked recover rate in comparison to the GT2 intercoolers?
 
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...My GT2 intercoolers were burning JB weld with my stock VTG's...
That's NUTS!!!
First time I've seen that. I would think its time to get some big boy Champion IC's for that kind of thrashing.
 


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