DB9 Volante - roof problem
#1
DB9 Volante - roof problem
Hi all
The soft-top on my 2005 Volante is playing up - it wont open.
The soft-roof folds back and the rear window folds forward, but the rear decklid doesn't open and seems to be pulled even more 'closed' by the roof mechanism.
Any thoughts?
AM service have no idea - but say they need to remove pretty much the whole rear of the car to get to the latches under the cover!
Thanks in advance
James
The soft-top on my 2005 Volante is playing up - it wont open.
The soft-roof folds back and the rear window folds forward, but the rear decklid doesn't open and seems to be pulled even more 'closed' by the roof mechanism.
Any thoughts?
AM service have no idea - but say they need to remove pretty much the whole rear of the car to get to the latches under the cover!
Thanks in advance
James
#3
most likely you're experiencing tonneau cover latch motor failure. Is the tonneau cover just lifting on one side, or not opening at all?
#4
But instead of opening, it appears to shift forward and down just a smidge, as though it's actually getting MORE tightly closed.
Some other observations:
- The hydraulic pump continues to run for as long as I keep the switch actuated.
- I've tried turning off the ignition switch and removing the key at this point. The top can be moved, but the tonneau cover is still locked down (both sides)
- Just before the tonneau cover does its little nudge, here is an initial audible *thunk* on the R side of the car only.
- If I jog the switch, the thunk repeats.
- If, after running the closure process past the thunk sound and slight movement/tightening of the tonneau cover, I then turn off the ignition and remove the key, there's more subtle thunk and the tonneau returns to its normal closed position.
It seems to me like the latches for the tonneau aren't releasing on EITHER side, despite the R-side thunk sound. A friend helped me and we lifted on both sides to no avail.
I think that perhaps the shift/closure is a red-herring and unrelated to the problem: the hydraulic pistons for the tonneau are applying upward force to the rear, but since the latches constrain the lid from moving, all it can do is pivot on the latch like a teeter-totter.
Of course, that doesn't explain why the tonneau isn't unlatching. If neither side is opening, it seems unlikely that both motors would fail at the same time, donchathink?
I really appreciate any advice you might offer. I'll follow this up with some questions under a new title, in the hopes it might draw a few more responses.
David
#5
Hi Lostinla,
I have a similar problem with a customer's car. In fact I've nearly been in tears!
I have just found the double relay base.
Remove the left rear boot lining for access to the boot (trunk) fusebox. Unbolt and lift the fusebox, the double relay base is just laying underneath it, well it is in this one anyway. There has been water ingress and one of the relays is corroded. I am just about to replace the relays and clean up the socket and see if that makes it all work.
I suggest you go and check yours. if you find the same thing, then as well as cleaning the mess up I strongly advise that you fix the relay base to the panel so it does not lay in the water.
Good luck.
I have a similar problem with a customer's car. In fact I've nearly been in tears!
I have just found the double relay base.
Remove the left rear boot lining for access to the boot (trunk) fusebox. Unbolt and lift the fusebox, the double relay base is just laying underneath it, well it is in this one anyway. There has been water ingress and one of the relays is corroded. I am just about to replace the relays and clean up the socket and see if that makes it all work.
I suggest you go and check yours. if you find the same thing, then as well as cleaning the mess up I strongly advise that you fix the relay base to the panel so it does not lay in the water.
Good luck.
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#9
if it’s only one side that is lifting then may be hydraulic pump is the problem.
Another trick is assist the roof in lifting by forcing it with hand while pressing the roof open switch at the same time
try lifting front and try lifting rear of convertible top (one at a time) and if the rest of the process continues and roof opens then it’s not hydraulic but sensor problem like mine described in the video
#10
Thanks for your reply, i can see that the latch on one side hasn't opened, that`s why i'm i think its that not a sensor, i've since found a post on piston heads showing how to access the motor, which is know to suffer from water ingress, so hopefully that's where the fault will lie.
thanks
Keith
thanks
Keith
#11
Hi all, new to Pistonheads and Vantage ownership. Having the same tonneau cover latching issue on my '09 Vantage. Started out of nowhere. Hear the clunk, electric latch motor continues to run, lid doesn't open, etc. Able to access via the latch pulls in the pax side battery box. Have tried a different latch ECU (behind the battery) and another latch switch shifting it to either side with no luck. I even adjusted both latch controllers and the roller pin on the tonneau cover with no joy. Any additional suggestions to the ones above? Nice thing is I'm getting good at manual top operation but not what I envisioned when I bought the car. Thanks much.
Regards,
Tad
Regards,
Tad
#12
[QUOTE=gtcoastie;4812738]Hi all, new to Pistonheads and Vantage ownership. Having the same tonneau cover latching issue on my '09 Vantage. Started out of nowhere. Hear the clunk, electric latch motor continues to run, lid doesn't open, etc. Able to access via the latch pulls in the pax side battery box. Have tried a different latch ECU (behind the battery) and another latch switch shifting it to either side with no luck. I even adjusted both latch controllers and the roller pin on the tonneau cover with no joy. Any additional suggestions to the ones above? Nice thing is I'm getting good at manual top operation but not what I envisioned when I bought the car. Thanks much.
Regards,
Tad[/QU
UPDATE: To those who read this thread in the future, unbeknownst to me there are several fuses that direct the movement of the tonneau. After checking and replacing boot fuse #1, problem solved! Enjoying top down motoring again. Nice thing is I know exactly how the roof mechanism works now!
Regards,
Tad[/QU
UPDATE: To those who read this thread in the future, unbeknownst to me there are several fuses that direct the movement of the tonneau. After checking and replacing boot fuse #1, problem solved! Enjoying top down motoring again. Nice thing is I know exactly how the roof mechanism works now!
#13
DB9 and Vantage tonneau systems are vastly different. If you can open the tonneau manually on the Vantage, check that the cables are properly fitted into the latch assemblies. If not, refit then and secure them with a zip-tie.
#14
Tonneau latches
Please help I have tried to fix my Tonneau latch covers motors. Both latches do not lock. The roof will open and close after hitting the roof close button twice. Have replace the CRM with a used one and it responds as the original 1 in the car thinking I have a short help.I have tested both motors and with external power can lock them. Not sure they are getting power how can I check.
Gregory
Gregory
#15
Tonneau motor failure
Hi Lostinla,
I have a similar problem with a customer's car. In fact I've nearly been in tears!
I have just found the double relay base.
Remove the left rear boot lining for access to the boot (trunk) fusebox. Unbolt and lift the fusebox, the double relay base is just laying underneath it, well it is in this one anyway. There has been water ingress and one of the relays is corroded. I am just about to replace the relays and clean up the socket and see if that makes it all work.
I suggest you go and check yours. if you find the same thing, then as well as cleaning the mess up I strongly advise that you fix the relay base to the panel so it does not lay in the water.
Good luck.
I have a similar problem with a customer's car. In fact I've nearly been in tears!
I have just found the double relay base.
Remove the left rear boot lining for access to the boot (trunk) fusebox. Unbolt and lift the fusebox, the double relay base is just laying underneath it, well it is in this one anyway. There has been water ingress and one of the relays is corroded. I am just about to replace the relays and clean up the socket and see if that makes it all work.
I suggest you go and check yours. if you find the same thing, then as well as cleaning the mess up I strongly advise that you fix the relay base to the panel so it does not lay in the water.
Good luck.
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