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Old Apr 3, 2012 | 08:50 PM
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yikes, that really sucks! good luck with it, i hope it doesn't turn out any worse than just the pump!
 
Old Apr 3, 2012 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DetomasoGTS74
Had the same thought Landa, although I learned the hard way.

So I had the car towed to the shop today and its a ruined power steering pump as was thought. There are bits of metal in the fluid and the concern is that it may have gotten into some of the steering components

Anyways, these pumps are expensive and only in England so the car will be sitting for a while, get a good flush and a new pump. Hopefully thats all that is needed.

What an expensive 30 second lesson.
Ouch! That's terrible, I am sorry to hear that this was the outcome.

Do the techs think that this was inevitable and merely hastened by the hoonage? Or was the hoonage the only way that this could have been caused?
 
Old Apr 3, 2012 | 10:39 PM
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Thanks Rich and Shawn. I too hope it's not more serious than just the pump and a flush.

I have spoken with a couple people and dealers on this and most have never seen a pump fail. Then again, most had never heard of a customer taking the traction control off and having some fun. Does not seem to be an issue with our cars, as many posted above you should not lock the steering for extended time due to the pressure it puts on the pump. Lesson learned painfully-watching the car go off to the dealer on a flatbed made me feel sick!
 

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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 05:26 AM
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That's not so good

There are a few breakers over in the UK that will have a secondhand pump in stock
Or consider upgrading to the S rack & pump which makes the turn in much better and sharper.
 
Old Apr 4, 2012 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by DetomasoGTS74
you should not lock the steering for extended time AT HIGH ENGINE SPEEDS due to the pressure it puts on the pump. Lesson learned painfully-watching the car go off to the dealer on a flatbed made me feel sick!

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Old Apr 4, 2012 | 08:32 AM
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Sounds like its a bit too late to ask, but couldn't this be a warranty repair? I'm not sure your car is still under warranty, but this is simply a failure of a component.

I'm quite sure (I hope) you didn't necessarily disclose your "hoonage" episode that may have caused this.

Tongue in cheek of course, but you should have went in with this script:

Service Advisor: Good Morning Sir, how can I help you?
You: Something's wrong with my car's steering?
SA: What's it doing?
You: It's heavy and making noise.
SA: Okay, we'll call you when it's finished.
You: Okay, bye.

Really, I hope it is covered under warranty. Failure of a component within the prescribed mileage and time limits and under normal use should be covered. In any event, sorry about the down time.
 
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I'm wondering about this too. Shouldn't the power steering be able to handle a few donuts? I'm thinking there may have been a problem to begin with and it would have shown itself eventually.
 
Old Apr 4, 2012 | 09:15 AM
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I'm wondering about this too. Shouldn't the power steering be able to handle a few donuts? I'm thinking there may have been a problem to begin with and it would have shown itself eventually.
Precisely!!!
 
Old Apr 4, 2012 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by DetomasoGTS74
So I had the car towed to the shop today and its a ruined power steering pump as was thought. There are bits of metal in the fluid and the concern is that it may have gotten into some of the steering components

Anyways, these pumps are expensive and only in England so the car will be sitting for a while, get a good flush and a new pump. Hopefully thats all that is needed.

What an expensive 30 second lesson.
Sorry to hear that, hopefully the new pump and fluid change will do the trick.

I am also curious as to whether or not this is a weak spot for the car. If so, I think we would have "heard" about this failure by now.

good luck!
 
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Originally Posted by Racer_X
I'm wondering about this too. Shouldn't the power steering be able to handle a few donuts? I'm thinking there may have been a problem to begin with and it would have shown itself eventually.

What you perhaps fail to realize is that donuts are not performed at full lock, not even close once the donuts are initiated. Watch any well executed donut and you will see that the wheels are no where near full lock. In fact, they are often just turned slightly.

The OP says his were performed at full lock. Maybe they really weren't, but I'm just going by his statements
 
Old Apr 4, 2012 | 10:37 AM
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I understand, but I think what we are saying is theoretically, a car (any car) shouldn't blow out the power steering just by holding it at "full lock". Even with the rpms up. Obviously, this happens, as it did here and in the video; but we're saying it should be taken care of by the warranty as a failure of a component.

I can't see why anyone, Aston Martin or Hyundai would manufacture a car that you couldn't turn the steering wheel all the way to the left or right without a failure. To me that's "normal use". Heck, I was in "full lock" the other day while trying to hurry up and make a u-turn on a narrow street before the oncoming traffic came.

We just hope they will fix it through the warranty.
 
Old Apr 4, 2012 | 12:01 PM
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I agree that holding the steering at full lock for a few seconds shouldn't blow out the power steering. Still seems odd to me.
 
Old Apr 4, 2012 | 10:03 PM
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Landa-The car is an 06 and out of warranty for some time. Great idea and yes I would have gone that route if it were an option! I also agree it should not blow.

XJRS-I started in full lock and continued at pretty much full lock. It seemed well executed, but I am no professional and had limited room and was more concerned with the car ending up in a curb.

Either way it blew, the car has 30k on her and the mechanic felt that it may have been coming up on the failure anyway (per your thoughts RacerX). The pump delivers tomorrow and should be installed Friday. I just hope that all it is. Thanks for the well wishes WG.
 
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Originally Posted by DetomasoGTS74
Landa-The car is an 06 and out of warranty for some time. Great idea and yes I would have gone that route if it were an option! I also agree it should not blow.

XJRS-I started in full lock and continued at pretty much full lock. It seemed well executed, but I am no professional and had limited room and was more concerned with the car ending up in a curb.

Either way it blew, the car has 30k on her and the mechanic felt that it may have been coming up on the failure anyway (per your thoughts RacerX). The pump delivers tomorrow and should be installed Friday. I just hope that all it is. Thanks for the well wishes WG.
Dang it! Sorry.

But I'm glad and enthused (sp) that you are someone that enjoys your car. This as opposed to someone who buys it and lets it sit in the garage and afraid to put it through it's paces or put miles on it. For what it's worth, I would have done the donuts too.

You'll be back in shortly. I'm glad to hear it didn't take them long to get the part. Get out and enjoy the drive. The weather is getting better here in Michigan, so I know its already warm there in Texas. Just keep your eyes to the sky and watch out for the tornadoes and hail you have been getting lately.

Stay Safe Detomaso!
 
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Thanks Landa-having grown up in Detroit with a father in the auto industry it was instilled at a young age. I truly do enjoy this car and have put her through the paces. Never even a hiccup except for this instance which is clearly my fault.

Car will be back in my hands tomorrow at 10am and I have not been this excited since I took delivery.

Are you visiting Aston of Troy in the near future?
 


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