Ace Wheels arrived
Looking forward to putting these on my 2007 Vantage. I bought them based on the photos here, though I went very conservative with the fitment and am staying close to stock on them (19", no wild offsets). Price is very right...less than $ 1,400 shipped for a set of (4) staggered.
Opened the boxes today. Very nicely packed. First time I have ever seen a wheel maker take this much care with the finished side. They actually put a liner cover over the entire wheel face (nice!), then below that have blue protective tape on the machined parts. The finish is first rate - MUCH nicer than I expected. So far, so good. Will be a week or so before I can get them mounted up, though I will test fit them in my garage in the next day or two. All the tire stores near me are hacks with old machines, and I'm going to get them done on a Corghi.... http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5cf50bea.jpg http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4a4abaab.jpg |
Those look awesome!!! Can't wait to see them mounted.
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Great looking wheels Duane. :cool: I really like that subtle sort of "turbine" effect.
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Price was definitely a factor.
Wonder where Ace Wheel got their inspiration for this design?......lol http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...psc97f42f1.jpg |
Those look awesome! What are the weights? Can't wait to see them on your v8v buddy :) looking to the one77 for inspiration is not a bad way to start for sure!
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Was that from the post Stew had put up a few months back? He had put a similar set from ACE on the magma red V8V he had picked up (since sold I believe). I saw them in person, very sharp and certainly hard to beat for the $. I wasn't aware how close they were to the One-77, nice pick up. He had his spaced aggressively, what are the offset details on these? What is the finish for these? Please post some shots along the side of the car with the before and after look!
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Works for me... I hate the 2006-2007 factory wheels.
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Thanks For The Feedback! Glad you love your wheels.
For everyone that missed out on our original Aston Martin Convex thread, here is link: https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...n-vantage.html |
Where did you buy them from? Online or a local place?
Originally Posted by drcollie
(Post 3718612)
Looking forward to putting these on my 2007 Vantage. I bought them based on the photos here, though I went very conservative with the fitment and am staying close to stock on them (19", no wild offsets). Price is very right...less than $ 1,400 shipped for a set of (4) staggered.
Opened the boxes today. Very nicely packed. First time I have ever seen a wheel maker take this much care with the finished side. They actually put a liner cover over the entire wheel face (nice!), then below that have blue protective tape on the machined parts. The finish is first rate - MUCH nicer than I expected. So far, so good. Will be a week or so before I can get them mounted up, though I will test fit them in my garage in the next day or two. All the tire stores near me are hacks with old machines, and I'm going to get them done on a Corghi.... http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5cf50bea.jpg http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4a4abaab.jpg |
Can't wait to see them on the car!
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Originally Posted by 007 Vantage
(Post 3720668)
Can't wait to see them on the car!
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at that price its a steal. They do weigh a good 3-4lbs heaver per wheel than the sportpack wheels, but you could easily offset that by switching from RE050As to Michelin Pilot Super Sports (which are very light tires). Net Net, should come out break even and honestly have much nicer looking wheels.
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Originally Posted by shadowhusky
(Post 3721162)
Me too, I will most likely pick a set up also.
Here's the receipt. You'll also need to buy (20) new lug nuts as the standard Aston ones won't fit. Basic Zinc ones are $ 30 for the set. -------------------------- Product ID: ace-d7041985hsace-d7041910hs Product Name: - Staggered Full Set - <br>(2) 19x8.5 Ace Alloy Convex Hypersilver w/Machined Accent<br>(2) 19x10 Ace Alloy Convex Hypersilver w/Machined Accent Quantity: 1 Unit Price: $1,230.00 Front Tires : Click Here to Add 2 Front Tires (Optional) Rear Tires : Click Here to Add 2 Rear Tires (Optional) Vehicle Fitment : <b>Front Wheels</b> Universal 5 Lug - Offset: 38 mm <b>Rear Wheels</b> Universal 5 Lug Offset: 45 mm -------------------------- Order Total : $1,230.00 Shipping : $0.00 Grand Total : $1,230.00 |
Thanks Duane,
I can't wait to see the pics, make sure you get a few pics that show the offest off. I really didn't car for the way the 20" one stuck out so far on the rears. I dont mind a little more offset but that was way too much. Did you just get the lugs from element wheels or someplace else?
Originally Posted by drcollie
(Post 3721372)
Bought them from elementwheels.com
Here's the receipt. You'll also need to buy (20) new lug nuts as the standard Aston ones won't fit. Basic Zinc ones are $ 30 for the set. -------------------------- Product ID: ace-d7041985hsace-d7041910hs Product Name: - Staggered Full Set - <br>(2) 19x8.5 Ace Alloy Convex Hypersilver w/Machined Accent<br>(2) 19x10 Ace Alloy Convex Hypersilver w/Machined Accent Quantity: 1 Unit Price: $1,230.00 Front Tires : Click Here to Add 2 Front Tires (Optional) Rear Tires : Click Here to Add 2 Rear Tires (Optional) Vehicle Fitment : <b>Front Wheels</b> Universal 5 Lug - Offset: 38 mm <b>Rear Wheels</b> Universal 5 Lug Offset: 45 mm -------------------------- Order Total : $1,230.00 Shipping : $0.00 Grand Total : $1,230.00 |
I am curious to see the offsets specifically. They should look great. What tire size you plan on running?
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Originally Posted by drcollie
(Post 3718696)
Price was definitely a factor.
Wonder where Ace Wheel got their inspiration for this design?......lol http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...psc97f42f1.jpg |
Originally Posted by shadowhusky
(Post 3721510)
Thanks Duane,
I can't wait to see the pics, make sure you get a few pics that show the offest off. I really didn't car for the way the 20" one stuck out so far on the rears. I dont mind a little more offset but that was way too much. Did you just get the lugs from element wheels or someplace else? While not the best looking lug, I have to see if they fit well before considering an alloy one for more $$$. |
^^^ Duane why did you need new lugs? oiu couldn't re-use your stock ones? Every time I get new wheels they always come with required mounting hardware, like lugs or so forth if needed to properly fit the wheel to the hub, is that not the case with the ACE wheels?
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007Vantage gave me a heads up that I would probably need aftermarket lugs and Ace Wheel confirmed it, though they don't sell them or have a direct source for them. Neither did Element Wheel. So you're pretty much on your own to source a set - but Google is your friend and that's how I arrived at Otis for the lugs.
I agree that if you REALLY want to service the high end car market, you need to have everything needed to put the wheels on the car, even if you have to charge extra for it. It shows you are professional and prepared. New wheels should be on by Saturday..... |
Unfortunately nobody includes lugs with their wheels, also, Aston lugs are very wide in diameter and do not fit any aftermarket wheels. Most aftermarket wheels use aftermarket tuner Lugnuts in order to improve the wheels aesthetics, as big gaping holes can alter the wheels design (and integrity to some extent). One of the many headaches I learned from back when I ordered my Rennen wheels.
Luckily Aston uses Ford Truck splines (yes more ford parts bin diving). So it's relatively easy to find lugs, albeit not the best looking ones). |
^^^ I have around 30 - 40 wheels & tires spread thu 5 current cars, everytime I ordered new wheels they came with mounting hardware (wheel bolts, lugs etc..) from several wheel makers like forgeline, CCW and others. Even before and forgeline sold to a larger wheel brand, also fikse has been among my favorites and of course bbs racing wheels.
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Thanks again Duane,
I cant wait to see the pics of the wheels installed.
Originally Posted by drcollie
(Post 3722068)
Neither Ace nor Element could assist with the lugs, so I wound up digging up an old post from this forum and ordered a cheap set (zinc plated) from www.otisincla.com for $ 30 and they charged $ 20 for shipping. They are part # B-D5X2, Closed Lug Nut Hex19, M14x2x41 60 degree Zinc Pl 12M.
While not the best looking lug, I have to see if they fit well before considering an alloy one for more $$$. |
Test fit in the garage this morning and photos taken with crappy iPhone camera...
I always test fit before going off to get them mounted to make sure calipers clear, bolt patterns align, lug nuts fit and offsets are good. They passed with flying colors - the rear is maybe a little more aggressive than I planned on (offset) but it may tuck in once the tire is on and the car on the ground. I tried to show the offsets as best I could in two shots, more aggressive than stock as you can see. I can confirm the stock Aston lug nuts absolutely will not work on these wheels (they are too 'fat'), the cheapie aftermarket zinc ones work fine. My goal on these was to give the '07 an updated look without coming off the stock tire sizes in a 19" fitment. When I go into the showroom and see the new 2012's and 2013's the wheels is what makes the newer cars look more modern, and I think these ACE wheels will give it that look at a very affordable price. I learned long ago that moving to larger wheel sizes and thinner profiles compromises ride quality, so while you can get a 'cooler' look with 20" and larger, you will pay for it on every expansion joint you drive over. So far, I'm very impressed with the quality of this wheel at the price. For $ 300 a corner, I don't know where you will find anything this nicely made that looks this good. Tomorrow they get mounted. Stay tuned. http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...pse79d9e8e.jpg http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...psd7786eaa.jpg http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...psfb728b83.jpg http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9f3349c6.jpg http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...ps35d83cf3.jpg http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7ff39f41.jpg |
The rears do look a little aggressive like you said. hopefully they do "tuck in" after it is back on the ground.. I can't wait for the final pics.:D
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To me, it looks too far out in the back. If that photo is accurate, I don't think mounting tires and putting the car on the ground will make it look any better.
Did you really want to move the outside face of the wheel almost an inch (23 mm) as compared to stock? Seems a tad much to me. Hope I'm wrong. |
Originally Posted by 007 Vantage
(Post 3722350)
Unfortunately nobody includes lugs with their wheels, also, Aston lugs are very wide in diameter and do not fit any aftermarket wheels. Most aftermarket wheels use aftermarket tuner Lugnuts in order to improve the wheels aesthetics, as big gaping holes can alter the wheels design (and integrity to some extent). One of the many headaches I learned from back when I ordered my Rennen wheels.
Luckily Aston uses Ford Truck splines (yes more ford parts bin diving). So it's relatively easy to find lugs, albeit not the best looking ones). https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ew-wheels.html |
Originally Posted by drcollie
(Post 3722697)
Test fit in the garage this morning and photos taken with crappy iPhone camera...
I always test fit before going off to get them mounted to make sure calipers clear, bolt patterns align, lug nuts fit and offsets are good. They passed with flying colors - the rear is maybe a little more aggressive than I planned on (offset) but it may tuck in once the tire is on and the car on the ground. I tried to show the offsets as best I could in two shots, more aggressive than stock as you can see. I can confirm the stock Aston lug nuts absolutely will not work on these wheels (they are too 'fat'), the cheapie aftermarket zinc ones work fine. My goal on these was to give the '07 an updated look without coming off the stock tire sizes in a 19" fitment. When I go into the showroom and see the new 2012's and 2013's the wheels is what makes the newer cars look more modern, and I think these ACE wheels will give it that look at a very affordable price. I learned long ago that moving to larger wheel sizes and thinner profiles compromises ride quality, so while you can get a 'cooler' look with 20" and larger, you will pay for it on every expansion joint you drive over. So far, I'm very impressed with the quality of this wheel at the price. For $ 300 a corner, I don't know where you will find anything this nicely made that looks this good. Tomorrow they get mounted. Stay tuned. http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...pse79d9e8e.jpg http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...psd7786eaa.jpg http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...psfb728b83.jpg http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9f3349c6.jpg http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...ps35d83cf3.jpg http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7ff39f41.jpg |
Originally Posted by XJRS Owner
(Post 3722765)
To me, it looks too far out in the back. If that photo is accurate, I don't think mounting tires and putting the car on the ground will make it look any better.
Did you really want to move the outside face of the wheel almost an inch (23 mm) as compared to stock? Seems a tad much to me. Hope I'm wrong. David |
Originally Posted by mikes300
(Post 3722782)
that's just not true, I just installed HRE wheel on my DB9, and the stock lugs fit perfectly, and IMO they look better than the ones they supplied with the wheels.
https://www.6speedonline.com/forums/...ew-wheels.html The rest require tuner lugnuts. Remember, most wheels use Lug BOLTs not Lug Nuts, so they are provided. With aston none of them are provided. Most aftermarket wheels never provide bolts. That is an industry standard, the ones that do are super rare exception so consider yourself lucky if they do. 90%+ don't |
^^^ I have not had that experience at all in fact CCW and Forgeline both provided mounting hardware in those cases wheel bolts, threaded and cut for that car hub and custom wheel. Same with Kenesis, Fikse, BBS and HRE. In fact I'm shocked that this isn't the case with every wheel provider. If the car has lug bolts such as my BMW, Mercedes SL55 AMG or Porsche Turbo. I always received hardware to fit the wheels on the car, in the case of cars with studs such as my M3 CSL race car or Porsche GT2 I got threaded lugnuts which were either beveled or straight conical cut to exactly fit the seats on the holes and work perfectly with the studs on said car. I think this should be part of the package when buying wheels the hardware is a requisite item and part of the complete buyers experience, if the factory hardware is to be re-used then an option to purchase a new set of mounting hardware should be offered to the customer at point-of-sale. To do otherwise is not servicing the customer to the degree that a product provider should and takes away from the user experience.
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wow very nice, but I agree that is one aggressive offset in the rear there....
looking forward to more! |
Originally Posted by 007 Vantage
(Post 3723009)
HRE is the one exception, although some aston owners have reported on certain designs only either front or rear stock lugs worked.
The rest require tuner lugnuts. Remember, most wheels use Lug BOLTs not Lug Nuts, so they are provided. With aston none of them are provided. Most aftermarket wheels never provide bolts. That is an industry standard, the ones that do are super rare exception so consider yourself lucky if they do. 90%+ don't |
^^^ There are more, not just HRE...I've rattled of a half dozen or so wheel makers who provide hardware with their wheels. Hardare means lug bolts, or nuts depending on if you run studs or not, any sort of spacer or hub ring if needed. etc...
Not having these items in my estimate does not make a wheel package complete. It's like giving a customer a plate of food at a restuarant and not providing them with a the dining utelsils or silverware required to eat their meal. |
Originally Posted by 007 Vantage
(Post 3723009)
HRE is the one exception, although some aston owners have reported on certain designs only either front or rear stock lugs worked.
The rest require tuner lugnuts. Remember, most wheels use Lug BOLTs not Lug Nuts, so they are provided. With aston none of them are provided. Most aftermarket wheels never provide bolts. That is an industry standard, the ones that do are super rare exception so consider yourself lucky if they do. 90%+ don't You buy any of the many, many wheels from Tirerack and they come with required mounting hardware. And MOST wheels use lug NUTS, not BOLTS. |
Originally Posted by XJRS Owner
(Post 3723708)
Ridiculous statement.
You buy any of the many, many wheels from Tirerack and they come with required mounting hardware. And MOST wheels use lug NUTS, not BOLTS. |
Originally Posted by drcollie
(Post 3723748)
Well technically they are lug SCREWS, because a bolt requires a fastener on the other end....lol
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OK! Here we go....what everyone was waiting for (I guess). Wheels installed by my pal Scott, who has the finest equipment at one of his tire stores and has been doing this for 30 years. He has sold just about every wheel brand ever made, including lots of HRE's and done them on every car imaginable. Installed with a Corghi tire machine and Hunter Road Force Balancer. His comments were:
* Very nicely done wheels * Incredible finish * Can't believe you can buy as set for $ 1,200 * They REALLY update the car * Both rear wheels were 'walking' (side to side runout) and difficult to balance, but he indicated he was able to correct most of that and anyone buying these should definitely only have them balanced on a Hunter Road Force machine. Fronts were fine. He then said you would never get that runout on a wheel like an HRE, but then these are not priced like an HRE. Offest is aggressive, but not over the top. I'm happy with the fit and fitment - just don't get too close to any curbs as these will take the hit. These are the stock tires sizes for the 2007 Aston (19" wheel option) and the car has not been - and will not be - lowered. So, its a cosmetic change only, and I think worth every penny....I would buy again. ACE WHEEL needs to do one thing, however - and either include the lug nuts with the wheels or sell them as an accessory, because a lot of wheel buyers are going to get aggravated trying to chase these down on their own. It would be very frustrating for a buyer to order a wheel and tire combo from a dealer - have them arrive and then he can't install them because there are no lug nuts that will fit. Little things like that make a difference. Now, onto the photos....it was late in the afternoon and some snowflakes coming down, the best I can do for now.... http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8adc3ec7.jpg http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...psa90fe7aa.jpg http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1577cef1.jpg http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...psee4652cf.jpg http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8494b4a3.jpg http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1eefd74c.jpg http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...ps06ebbd21.jpg |
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Looks really nice Duane...well done :)
Wheel & tire farkle = DONE!!! |
is it possible to put AM center cap on these?
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