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Old Jul 9, 2013 | 01:50 PM
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AM V8 Front bumper removed

For the life of me Google is failing. I want to see the intake assembly on a AM V8.

Basically I want to see the car with the front bumper removed and can't fine any. Anyone or shop out there that can post some images of the front bumper removed?
 
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Like this? link = track-days.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t=1271631&mid=0&nmt=V8+Vantage+Bodyw ork+Upgrade
 
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Thank you Erik, that is what I was looking for. I wanted to see how it was designed.

A question i am having, wouldn't be better for the car to make a single ram air tube? Similar to a vett or viper. Or make a better flowing intake tube from the 2 collector?

Just thoughts with out seeing the designs in person.
 
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Thank you Erik, that is what I was looking for. I wanted to see how it was designed.

A question i am having, wouldn't be better for the car to make a single ram air tube? Similar to a vett or viper. Or make a better flowing intake tube from the 2 collector?

Just thoughts with out seeing the designs in person.
that sure would make things a lot easier. my *guess* as to the factory locations for the airboxes is to maintain unobstructed airflow through the cooling systems that are at the front of the car, and for packaging and appearance.
 
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Originally Posted by TurboDragon
Thank you Erik, that is what I was looking for. I wanted to see how it was designed.

A question i am having, wouldn't be better for the car to make a single ram air tube? Similar to a vett or viper. Or make a better flowing intake tube from the 2 collector?

Just thoughts with out seeing the designs in person.
The intake tube itself really isn't a bottleneck, the main restriction is the single throttle plate. To really achieve meaningful gains, a twin throttle setup would be the way to go. May or may not be in the works. AM themselves probably would have fitted something like this if it wasn't too expensive.

Some of the race cars do away with the airbox and run naked filters, but of course you're running the risk of water ingress...
 
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Here are a couple pics of AM's V8V GT-E that I took. As luck would have it, their team showed up at Road Atlanta while I was there doing an HPDE in my V8V last March. They had just shipped the car to the US from England and were building it for its first race, which was 12 Hours of Sebring.

Notice the intake manifold is completely different than that of the production car.



 
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OH SNAP..

I saw on another thread or vendor, can't remember but the N400 intake was a upgrade?

Is their any restrictions in the dual split tube going to the throttle body flap?

Sorry for old questions if they have already been asked.
 
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The N400 intakes are an upgrade on the standard 4.3L. I'm not sure if they became standard when the V8V switched to the 4.7L engine.

The tubes themselves are large enough to allow plenty of airflow. Like Stuart said, the throttle body is a major bottleneck. Two large inlets merge into one, then try to get through this. Even at it's full-open position, the airflow is still obstructed.

 
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Originally Posted by Stuart@VelocityAP
Some of the race cars do away with the airbox and run naked filters, but of course you're running the risk of water ingress...
One of my good pal's put a cold air aftermarket intake on new Miata, then got caught in a summer storm on the way home from work on his commute. He hit a puddle and that cold air intake sucked up the water and the engine hydrolocked and grenaded. On a Miata, it was only $ 8,000.....
 
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I guess you could put a snorkel on the intake.
 
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I guess you could put a snorkel on the intake.
Now we're fishing with dynamite!

Reminds me of this:

 
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wow this topic went south fast LOL.

If you are driving the car where you can get hydro-lock then you are doing some crazy stuff IE not paying attention to the weather and road conditions.
 
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Originally Posted by telum01
The N400 intakes are an upgrade on the standard 4.3L. I'm not sure if they became standard when the V8V switched to the 4.7L engine.

The tubes themselves are large enough to allow plenty of airflow. Like Stuart said, the throttle body is a major bottleneck. Two large inlets merge into one, then try to get through this. Even at it's full-open position, the airflow is still obstructed.

I assume no one has made a more efficient throttle body yet?
 
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I assume no one has made a more efficient throttle body yet?
The throttle body itself is fairly large, but you can do a little to improve it. You can have it ceramic coated (keeps heat out, but i don't think that's an issue for us), and you can have it ported. I'm actually thinking of going this route.

When I was building my Subaru STi, I dealt with a company called Grimmspeed quite a bit. Fantastic company and excellent work. $90 for porting. Add $50 for ceramic coating if you want it.
http://www.grimmspeed.com/catalog/pr...products_id=47

Honestly, though, I don't see it making a noticeable difference at all. It smooths out airflow but the bottleneck is still there - the butterfly plate. If it does help, it'll be that smoothing out the airflow will allow it to travel faster and get more air through the same size opening.

I don't know how practical it would be to find a larger, compatible throttle body. It'd take more research than I have time for!
 
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Sounds like we need a new head unit. I pinged one of the tuners I work with in the UK.

Just curious to see if they plaid with a V8.
 


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