New Clutch for V8's from Aston Martin
#61
I'm being told the AMR twin plate clutch kit cost is $3550 for parts. Labor to install is about $1750.
The VAP twin plate clutch is about a thousand dollars more that the AMR for parts.
Any opinions as to why to spend the extra money on the VAP kit vs AMR?
Has anyone here had the AMR clutch installed and can give feedback? (I've read reviews of the VAP clutch, but not the AMR one)
The VAP twin plate clutch is about a thousand dollars more that the AMR for parts.
Any opinions as to why to spend the extra money on the VAP kit vs AMR?
Has anyone here had the AMR clutch installed and can give feedback? (I've read reviews of the VAP clutch, but not the AMR one)
#62
Ours is the same price. With Xr changing and some cost savings on our part we can price match the AMar kit, so you get the full V12VS clutch and not the compromised smaller version in the AMR package. We haven’t updated the site yet but will have an announcement soon.
#65
Where the VAP setup has an advantage is, rather than using the smaller R8 version of the Valeo Twin Plate clutch pack, ours uses the taller V12 Vantage S unit. It's designed to handle more HP that the R8 setup.
AM did not use the V12VS unit because they realised it would not fit the 2015/2016 cars, when they started casting the release bearing spacer into the torque tube. The only other solution (one of our clients used) was to machine down the torque tube, or alternatively order a completely different torque tube + spacer from the earlier cars.
You can't go wrong with either option.
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Velocity Automotive Performance Limited
206 Maple Avenue
Oliver, BC
Canada V2A 4W6
Office: (1)250-485-5126
www.velocityap.com
Stuart Dickinson
Managing Director
Velocity Automotive Performance Limited
206 Maple Avenue
Oliver, BC
Canada V2A 4W6
Office: (1)250-485-5126
www.velocityap.com
#67
Ours does 100%. The 2011 doesn't have the torque tube/spacer issue like the 15-on cars so I believe the AMR should work. That said I've heard conflicting info from dealers about whether the AMR is or is not endorsed by the factory for the ASM cars.
__________________
Stuart Dickinson
Managing Director
Velocity Automotive Performance Limited
206 Maple Avenue
Oliver, BC
Canada V2A 4W6
Office: (1)250-485-5126
www.velocityap.com
Stuart Dickinson
Managing Director
Velocity Automotive Performance Limited
206 Maple Avenue
Oliver, BC
Canada V2A 4W6
Office: (1)250-485-5126
www.velocityap.com
#68
Has anyone tried a Kevlar disc?
Rebuilds on the Ferrari clutches in Kevlar are much less expensive and have been popular from HCF - https://hcfautoparts.com/
Rebuilds on the Ferrari clutches in Kevlar are much less expensive and have been popular from HCF - https://hcfautoparts.com/
#69
Hi All!
Recently purchased a Vantage, and am now installing the AMR twin-plate clutch.
I have the service manual, however it only speaks to the torque values for the single plate.
Anyone have any info of the proper procedure (torque values) for the twin plate clutch pieces?
The rest of the install (or really "uninstall" at this point in the project) has been ultra smooth. Much easier than working on Lotus
Thanks for any help!
Recently purchased a Vantage, and am now installing the AMR twin-plate clutch.
I have the service manual, however it only speaks to the torque values for the single plate.
Anyone have any info of the proper procedure (torque values) for the twin plate clutch pieces?
The rest of the install (or really "uninstall" at this point in the project) has been ultra smooth. Much easier than working on Lotus
Thanks for any help!
#70
Hi All!
Recently purchased a Vantage, and am now installing the AMR twin-plate clutch.
I have the service manual, however it only speaks to the torque values for the single plate.
Anyone have any info of the proper procedure (torque values) for the twin plate clutch pieces?
The rest of the install (or really "uninstall" at this point in the project) has been ultra smooth. Much easier than working on Lotus
Thanks for any help!
Recently purchased a Vantage, and am now installing the AMR twin-plate clutch.
I have the service manual, however it only speaks to the torque values for the single plate.
Anyone have any info of the proper procedure (torque values) for the twin plate clutch pieces?
The rest of the install (or really "uninstall" at this point in the project) has been ultra smooth. Much easier than working on Lotus
Thanks for any help!
I would expect the AMR to be the same.
__________________
Stuart Dickinson
Managing Director
Velocity Automotive Performance Limited
206 Maple Avenue
Oliver, BC
Canada V2A 4W6
Office: (1)250-485-5126
www.velocityap.com
Stuart Dickinson
Managing Director
Velocity Automotive Performance Limited
206 Maple Avenue
Oliver, BC
Canada V2A 4W6
Office: (1)250-485-5126
www.velocityap.com
#71
Thanks Stuart!
Now doing some research looks like you do a great service to the community here, even when people buy competitors products.
It looks like I am too "new" to send PM's. could you message me?
Now doing some research looks like you do a great service to the community here, even when people buy competitors products.
It looks like I am too "new" to send PM's. could you message me?
#73
__________________
Stuart Dickinson
Managing Director
Velocity Automotive Performance Limited
206 Maple Avenue
Oliver, BC
Canada V2A 4W6
Office: (1)250-485-5126
www.velocityap.com
Stuart Dickinson
Managing Director
Velocity Automotive Performance Limited
206 Maple Avenue
Oliver, BC
Canada V2A 4W6
Office: (1)250-485-5126
www.velocityap.com
#74
Hey all,
First-
Thank you to Stuart. Even without spending a dime at his business, he spoke to me on the phone and gave me some advice. I think that speaks to the customer service.
As well as this Brian in the parts department at Los Gatos Aston Martin has given me superb service and support. Great guy and Customer service.
Second-
Clutch went in last night so now on the back end of the clutch install (IE putting everything back together).
So far everything went flawlessly. The hardest part of the whole job was removing the bolts on the top side of the torque tube to the block. Just not much room. Nothing crazy and will be interesting to reinstall them.
Stuart and quite a few resources have said you are just able to install the clutch without a compression tool. Having looked at it, I believe they are right and would be fine as long as you compress the bolts evenly to the final torque value.
This wouldn't do for me. I trust the Aston torque values and the above would change the torque on the bolts, even if only slightly.
Forgoing buying the $1600 Aston Clutch compression tool, I "made" my own from a universal kit I already had. I used the flywheel torque in the service manual and 19nm for the clutch pack when compressed.
What you need is
Universal Clutch Compression tool, similar to ($100)- Make sure the one you buy has a 3 arm tool
3x- 6mmx50mm coarse thread hex cap screws (10.9)
3x- 6mm thick washer.
The screws will connect the cover to the tool, and then you can compress them, like normal. Some universal compression tools may come with the 6mm connecting screws, mine didn't, seemed to only have SAE.
You can then line up and compress the clutch plate with the tool, like normal and center and install the cluthch pack on the fly wheel.
Worked out really well! I feel better the clutch was installed to the Aston Martin specifications.
Also-
I replaced the pilot bearing.The bearing size is a "JT-129". The bearing in there was a "Torrington" brand. I had never heard of the brand before (surprisingly even with the name "Torrington" which I would have assumed was British made, it was stamped USA.) I went with a Koyo bearing, which I know are high quality and is made in the USA. Plus they are easy to source. Nothing super special for the bearing replacement other than a small bearing puller I already had in my tools set similar to the one below. It was easy with the fly wheel removed.
https://www.harborfreight.com/3-jaw-...ller-4876.html
Hope this can help someone in the future. I take no responsibility and you can use this method and advice at your own risk.
First-
Thank you to Stuart. Even without spending a dime at his business, he spoke to me on the phone and gave me some advice. I think that speaks to the customer service.
As well as this Brian in the parts department at Los Gatos Aston Martin has given me superb service and support. Great guy and Customer service.
Second-
Clutch went in last night so now on the back end of the clutch install (IE putting everything back together).
So far everything went flawlessly. The hardest part of the whole job was removing the bolts on the top side of the torque tube to the block. Just not much room. Nothing crazy and will be interesting to reinstall them.
Stuart and quite a few resources have said you are just able to install the clutch without a compression tool. Having looked at it, I believe they are right and would be fine as long as you compress the bolts evenly to the final torque value.
This wouldn't do for me. I trust the Aston torque values and the above would change the torque on the bolts, even if only slightly.
Forgoing buying the $1600 Aston Clutch compression tool, I "made" my own from a universal kit I already had. I used the flywheel torque in the service manual and 19nm for the clutch pack when compressed.
What you need is
Universal Clutch Compression tool, similar to ($100)- Make sure the one you buy has a 3 arm tool
3x- 6mmx50mm coarse thread hex cap screws (10.9)
3x- 6mm thick washer.
The screws will connect the cover to the tool, and then you can compress them, like normal. Some universal compression tools may come with the 6mm connecting screws, mine didn't, seemed to only have SAE.
You can then line up and compress the clutch plate with the tool, like normal and center and install the cluthch pack on the fly wheel.
Worked out really well! I feel better the clutch was installed to the Aston Martin specifications.
Also-
I replaced the pilot bearing.The bearing size is a "JT-129". The bearing in there was a "Torrington" brand. I had never heard of the brand before (surprisingly even with the name "Torrington" which I would have assumed was British made, it was stamped USA.) I went with a Koyo bearing, which I know are high quality and is made in the USA. Plus they are easy to source. Nothing super special for the bearing replacement other than a small bearing puller I already had in my tools set similar to the one below. It was easy with the fly wheel removed.
https://www.harborfreight.com/3-jaw-...ller-4876.html
Hope this can help someone in the future. I take no responsibility and you can use this method and advice at your own risk.
Last edited by geronracing; 03-26-2018 at 01:35 PM.
#75
i was quoted $3400 shipped to your door for the asm kit which includes the flywheel, clutch, slave, and bolts. not a bad number.
6G33-11-10821
but it doesnt mention asm transsmission. does anyone know if it will also fit? i think the slave spacer is different if im not mistaken
6G33-11-10821
but it doesnt mention asm transsmission. does anyone know if it will also fit? i think the slave spacer is different if im not mistaken