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Old Feb 21, 2018 | 11:02 AM
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Thanks Stuart - that's great news!

So, now I'm even more stuck as to which clutch to go with???

Anyone here get the AMR clutch and can give feedback?
 
Old Feb 21, 2018 | 11:08 AM
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Get the AMR one! You can be the first to review. If you need a clutch It shouldn't matter which is better, you'll be happy with either.
 
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Thanks Stuart - that's great news!

So, now I'm even more stuck as to which clutch to go with???

Anyone here get the AMR clutch and can give feedback?
The AMR clutch is a great product. They essentially saw what the aftermarket was doing and came out with their own version.

Where the VAP setup has an advantage is, rather than using the smaller R8 version of the Valeo Twin Plate clutch pack, ours uses the taller V12 Vantage S unit. It's designed to handle more HP that the R8 setup.

AM did not use the V12VS unit because they realised it would not fit the 2015/2016 cars, when they started casting the release bearing spacer into the torque tube. The only other solution (one of our clients used) was to machine down the torque tube, or alternatively order a completely different torque tube + spacer from the earlier cars.

You can't go wrong with either option.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2018 | 03:37 PM
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Would either the AMR or the VAP setup fit a 2011 Vantage S with the Sport Shift II 7 speed tranny?
 
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Would either the AMR or the VAP setup fit a 2011 Vantage S with the Sport Shift II 7 speed tranny?
Ours does 100%. The 2011 doesn't have the torque tube/spacer issue like the 15-on cars so I believe the AMR should work. That said I've heard conflicting info from dealers about whether the AMR is or is not endorsed by the factory for the ASM cars.
 
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Has anyone tried a Kevlar disc?

Rebuilds on the Ferrari clutches in Kevlar are much less expensive and have been popular from HCF - https://hcfautoparts.com/
 
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Hi All!

Recently purchased a Vantage, and am now installing the AMR twin-plate clutch.

I have the service manual, however it only speaks to the torque values for the single plate.

Anyone have any info of the proper procedure (torque values) for the twin plate clutch pieces?

The rest of the install (or really "uninstall" at this point in the project) has been ultra smooth. Much easier than working on Lotus

Thanks for any help!
 
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Originally Posted by geronracing
Hi All!

Recently purchased a Vantage, and am now installing the AMR twin-plate clutch.

I have the service manual, however it only speaks to the torque values for the single plate.

Anyone have any info of the proper procedure (torque values) for the twin plate clutch pieces?

The rest of the install (or really "uninstall" at this point in the project) has been ultra smooth. Much easier than working on Lotus

Thanks for any help!
For our kit it is 19NM.

I would expect the AMR to be the same.
 
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Thanks Stuart!

Now doing some research looks like you do a great service to the community here, even when people buy competitors products.

It looks like I am too "new" to send PM's. could you message me?
 
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Originally Posted by geronracing
Thanks Stuart!

Now doing some research looks like you do a great service to the community here, even when people buy competitors products.

It looks like I am too "new" to send PM's. could you message me?
Why don't you email me at stuart@velocityap.com
 
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Old Mar 23, 2018 | 05:24 PM
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Hey all,

First-
Thank you to Stuart. Even without spending a dime at his business, he spoke to me on the phone and gave me some advice. I think that speaks to the customer service.
As well as this Brian in the parts department at Los Gatos Aston Martin has given me superb service and support. Great guy and Customer service.

Second-
Clutch went in last night so now on the back end of the clutch install (IE putting everything back together).
So far everything went flawlessly. The hardest part of the whole job was removing the bolts on the top side of the torque tube to the block. Just not much room. Nothing crazy and will be interesting to reinstall them.

Stuart and quite a few resources have said you are just able to install the clutch without a compression tool. Having looked at it, I believe they are right and would be fine as long as you compress the bolts evenly to the final torque value.

This wouldn't do for me. I trust the Aston torque values and the above would change the torque on the bolts, even if only slightly.
Forgoing buying the $1600 Aston Clutch compression tool, I "made" my own from a universal kit I already had. I used the flywheel torque in the service manual and 19nm for the clutch pack when compressed.

What you need is
Universal Clutch Compression tool, similar to
Amazon Universal Clutch Tool Link Amazon Universal Clutch Tool Link
($100)- Make sure the one you buy has a 3 arm tool
3x- 6mmx50mm coarse thread hex cap screws (10.9)
3x- 6mm thick washer.

The screws will connect the cover to the tool, and then you can compress them, like normal. Some universal compression tools may come with the 6mm connecting screws, mine didn't, seemed to only have SAE.
You can then line up and compress the clutch plate with the tool, like normal and center and install the cluthch pack on the fly wheel.

Worked out really well! I feel better the clutch was installed to the Aston Martin specifications.

Also-
I replaced the pilot bearing.The bearing size is a "JT-129". The bearing in there was a "Torrington" brand. I had never heard of the brand before (surprisingly even with the name "Torrington" which I would have assumed was British made, it was stamped USA.) I went with a Koyo bearing, which I know are high quality and is made in the USA. Plus they are easy to source. Nothing super special for the bearing replacement other than a small bearing puller I already had in my tools set similar to the one below. It was easy with the fly wheel removed.
https://www.harborfreight.com/3-jaw-...ller-4876.html

Hope this can help someone in the future. I take no responsibility and you can use this method and advice at your own risk.


 

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i was quoted $3400 shipped to your door for the asm kit which includes the flywheel, clutch, slave, and bolts. not a bad number.

6G33-11-10821

but it doesnt mention asm transsmission. does anyone know if it will also fit? i think the slave spacer is different if im not mistaken
 
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Originally Posted by Jay Vong
i was quoted $3400 shipped to your door for the asm kit which includes the flywheel, clutch, slave, and bolts. not a bad number.

6G33-11-10821

but it doesnt mention asm transsmission. does anyone know if it will also fit? i think the slave spacer is different if im not mistaken
That's about what I paid. And that's also the same part number for mine, a 2010 manual. Everything I read I mentions that AMR doesn't approve the ASM application. All the other aftermarket kits do say they work with ASM and I don't see what would be different for the AMR kit. You would have to get a new slave cylinder and associated sensors but that wouldn't be too difficult. The kit comes with a new slave cylinder but I think you are right they are not the same.

Additionally make sure you buy the right kit for your year I think after 2014 there has to be a change in the torque tube so make sure you have the right kit number. I can confirm that number works for a 2010.

Also make sure you also get the gasket for the passenger side header as well as bolts for the header. Depending on your mileage the gasket probably won't be usable (mine was in very good shape but I replaced it anyway) and definitely don't reuse the bolts.
 

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Old Mar 25, 2018 | 10:11 PM
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can anyone else confirm it will work with the asm?

ill check with aston to see if i can order it with the asm slave. mines a 08. asm1

geronracing - did it come with the spacer for the slave? if not, do you know the part #?

also while you were in there, did you end up replacing the rear main seal and pilot bearing? any special tools needed? i recently changed the clutch on my viper and i ended using a big socket for the seal and i have a bearing puller. hope that will work. being a decade old, im sure the car could use a refresh
 


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