Let's talk numbers.... US Production run on Vantage V8's (all versions)
#1
Let's talk numbers.... US Production run on Vantage V8's (all versions)
Here's a thought. Now that the (original) Vantage V8 has ceased production for import into the US, does anyone know the final numbers that were manufactured and imported into the US.
I'm trying to decide whether to keep mine or move on the 2019 Vantage V8. If the numbers on the original Vantage are low enough, I believe it may be worthwhile to keep.
I'm trying to decide whether to keep mine or move on the 2019 Vantage V8. If the numbers on the original Vantage are low enough, I believe it may be worthwhile to keep.
#2
I was trying to look at this before but it is very difficult to get or collect the actual number but I think I have good estimate from research for 2007 - 2011 and 2012/2013 outlook numbers for all Vantage world wide
2006 - ????
2007 - 7100
2008 - 5300
2009 - 2380
2010 - 2400
2011 - 2450
2012 - 2250 (outlook)
2013 - 2000 (outlook)
2006 - ????
2007 - 7100
2008 - 5300
2009 - 2380
2010 - 2400
2011 - 2450
2012 - 2250 (outlook)
2013 - 2000 (outlook)
#3
Here's a thought. Now that the (original) Vantage V8 has ceased production for import into the US, does anyone know the final numbers that were manufactured and imported into the US.
I'm trying to decide whether to keep mine or move on the 2019 Vantage V8. If the numbers on the original Vantage are low enough, I believe it may be worthwhile to keep.
I'm trying to decide whether to keep mine or move on the 2019 Vantage V8. If the numbers on the original Vantage are low enough, I believe it may be worthwhile to keep.
#5
He's trying to project long-term supply vs. demand to determine if resale will go up appreciably, later on.
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#8
If you're planning to wait for these cars to go up in value, you better have low miles, pickle it and wait for a very long time. On the other hand, interest rates are rising, and unsurprisingly, the car used market is softening. We're about to see the end of this round of cars as investments. It's happened before, it'll happen again.
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#9
it may be less, I read a doc last year with exact numbers and destinations. I had it saved somewhere, I’ll look. I know the owner before me was pissed as he was on a waiting list of 300 in 2006 for the first ones, when only 3 were initially delivered to Canada he bought one in California at a US dealer, had the TC conversions done, and imported it to BC. I do recall noting 2007 being the single largest production year by a long shot. I think partially to make up for the prior year where pre ordered cars were undelivered.
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#11
For the record, supply is only part of the equation... look at the 240Z... 168k were made, and today their value is relatively astronomical. And while the market ebbs and flows, the production of manual, analog sports cars is declining...
#12
FWIW, I was told by Aston that only 56 Vantage roadsters with MT were sent to the U.S. in 2009. The low production must have been a byproduct of the Great Recession.
I wonder that the many expressions of dislike with the styling of the new Vantage V8 may cause an increase in the resale value of our 'old school ' Astons. Time will tell.
I wonder that the many expressions of dislike with the styling of the new Vantage V8 may cause an increase in the resale value of our 'old school ' Astons. Time will tell.
#13
If there were any logic or predictability to it, a 1970's Porsche 912, which nobody wanted 8 years ago, wouldn't be worth 20 grand.
#14
The total production is easy for both V8 and V12 as the last 5 in the VIN is the total production of all versions of each. So total V8 production worldwide is around 22000 [I can't find a 2017 for sale right now to get close to an accurate total] and V12 production is a bit over 3000 from the VIN numbers online.
22000 cars worldwide for 12 years production comes out to under 2000 cars a year. If the US got 10% of allocation that would be 200 cars / year on average. That includes all coupe, roadster, manual, SS all lumped together. That's just pure guestimate as I don't know what US allocation is on the world market but considering it's about 50/50 coupe/roadster, and about 33% stick, that's about 33 coupe M6's / year based on a 10% allocation. Although it seems the majority of the early 4.3 cars were M6, the majority of the 4.7 are SS.
But as said, as a DD the value is going to be in the pleasure of the drive and not in any appreciation realized years from now. Nobody is going to pay up for high mileage cars when there will be those garage queen sunny day Saturday night dinner only cars sitting in garages not being enjoyed enough, and those are the cars that will have a chance of appreciating, at the expense of not being able to enjoy the cars as drivers. I knew full well mine was going to be worth <$30k when I'm done putting 100k miles on it, but it's the miles I enjoy and are well worth the money lost. Depending on how reliable it is over those 100k miles
22000 cars worldwide for 12 years production comes out to under 2000 cars a year. If the US got 10% of allocation that would be 200 cars / year on average. That includes all coupe, roadster, manual, SS all lumped together. That's just pure guestimate as I don't know what US allocation is on the world market but considering it's about 50/50 coupe/roadster, and about 33% stick, that's about 33 coupe M6's / year based on a 10% allocation. Although it seems the majority of the early 4.3 cars were M6, the majority of the 4.7 are SS.
But as said, as a DD the value is going to be in the pleasure of the drive and not in any appreciation realized years from now. Nobody is going to pay up for high mileage cars when there will be those garage queen sunny day Saturday night dinner only cars sitting in garages not being enjoyed enough, and those are the cars that will have a chance of appreciating, at the expense of not being able to enjoy the cars as drivers. I knew full well mine was going to be worth <$30k when I'm done putting 100k miles on it, but it's the miles I enjoy and are well worth the money lost. Depending on how reliable it is over those 100k miles