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Old Mar 6, 2020 | 07:29 AM
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Aston Martin Replacing AMG V-8 with a Hybrid V-6 It Will Make Itself

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/amp31251261/aston-martin-engine-changes-keeping-v12/

when will AML cut their losses and get rid of Palmer
 
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Because he wants to dump the AMG v8? That’s one decision I agree with.
 
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Dropping the AMG fart engine is one thing but a V6?!
Inline 6 if it has to be a six ender.
I think Andy has too much attachment to his old job at Nissan.
 
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Nothing wrong with a good running 6, the V12 staying is even better. And it's all from the UK that's what people buy into.
 
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Originally Posted by J doubleU
Nothing wrong with a good running 6, the V12 staying is even better. And it's all from the UK that's what people buy into.
I prefer the engine built in Germany.
When you check the gaydon built cars under Dr. Bez time, you'll find endless parts built in Germany. From struts to all kind of pieces.

I would say that is the reason the first gen Gaydon cars raised the reliability and quality stake of Aston to a level never seen before.
 
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should do something that at least sounds good like an inline 5 or something... the NSX (which is basically a 3 motor hybrid twin turbo V6) is fast and all but it sounds like crap

honestly I can't think of any V6's that sound good or 'exotic' to me
 
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I would bet you those decisions were not Palmer's but the new investor - an Aston engine in an Aston Martin made by Aston Martin does not seem to be a Palmer decision - as it just makes far too much sense! I'm on the fence with a 6 vs. an 8. If you have a 4, 6, 8, or 12 and the displacement is similar I'm not an expert, but it seems like the 4 cylinder would be more torque in theory and the 12 would be higher revving with more HP... I can tell you I drove the V6 F-Type and was unimpressed at 380HP vs. my 2007 V8 Vantage at the same HP. Anyway, if they also redo the entire car line, that would be fantastic.
 
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The AMG V8 is a good motor. Turbo motors are never going to sound like a NA. The fuel overrun noises are lame, though. I like the idea of hybrids, but it's just more stuff to break. I'd rather have all electric. Aston seems bent on bringing engine production in house, which just seems like more costs to me. Why would you care where the engine is made? I certainly don't own an Aston because of where the engine was built.

I can see offering a hybrid as an option, but not as the only power unit.
 
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Originally Posted by sonies
should do something that at least sounds good like an inline 5 or something... the NSX (which is basically a 3 motor hybrid twin turbo V6) is fast and all but it sounds like crap

honestly I can't think of any V6's that sound good or 'exotic' to me
New Ford GT did the same and it sounds great
 
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New Ford GT did the same and it sounds great
I disagree, its basically straight piped and still sounds like ***

now the 2005 ford GT sounds great but its also a NA V8
 
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I disagree, its basically straight piped and still sounds like ***

now the 2005 ford GT sounds great but its also a NA V8
Supercharged V8 but you are right. The SC doesn't affect the exhaust noise.
 
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Aston should stop trying to be so high tech and make cars that their fanbase likes

Elegant, beautiful, yet macho vehicles

nobody wants an ugly catfish car with a fartbox exhaust
 
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In 2007 I had a choice - buy a showroom new Ford GT at $155K or order a new V8 Vantage at $155K . I already had a 1982 Porsche 928 with a Chevy Blower Motor of 600HP and figured why have another blower motor car that's plastic when I could have a new metal and leather Aston Martin that would surely hold it's value a lot more than that Ford GT - yikes was I wrong!
 
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In 2007 I had a choice - buy a showroom new Ford GT at $155K or order a new V8 Vantage at $155K . I already had a 1982 Porsche 928 with a Chevy Blower Motor of 600HP and figured why have another blower motor car that's plastic when I could have a new metal and leather Aston Martin that would surely hold it's value a lot more than that Ford GT - yikes was I wrong!

oh man that is brutal!
 
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Originally Posted by J doubleU
Nothing wrong with a good running 6, the V12 staying is even better. And it's all from the UK that's what people buy into.
There is a lot of good news and hints in that article (whether they have the $ to pull it all off).

1. Confirming the V12 will remain a lot longer
2. Confirming that even if the UK bans all petrol engines, Aston will continue to make them for rest of world
3. Bring all engine manufacturing back into UK (good for branding just hope quality is high)
4. Dropping AMG sourced V8 (I am not a fan but I know some are)
5. Walked away from Mercedes pitch for their 4 cylinder engine
6. Moving to hybrid turbo V6 (probably their V12 cut in half to reduce costs/share parts, higher revs, better sound, lighter, better gas mileage for regs, etc)
* I would love an inline 6 per another poster but the packaging required for their cars would not be ideal, not great for turbo, and cost would be too high
7. Subtly said hybrid is being placed ahead of gearbox - meaning they can continue to make manual transmission cars
8. The engineering around a hybrid powertrain (instead of full electric) means even further potential life for the V12

Just my take... and like I said we will see what really happens given their financial situation. But I believe this is the right move on powertrains for AM. We all agree they have a lot of other areas that need work.

 


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