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what did the place who did your PPI say about this damage? did they check abs run/ drive the car... seems odd that this happened after car warned up and drive well for a while... maybe you could also ask PPI guy why he didn't find anything out of sorts...
Does the Vantage have an oil temperature gauge? I now have one on my DB9 and I am in awe at how long it takes for the oil to warm up to 200 degrees. Engine wear goes up dramatically below about 180, and really oil should be 200-230 degrees. I think much of the wear and the grenading engines can be traced to premature excessive zeal. But without a gauge it's hard to judge.
You have to try and fix it regardless, document everything in detail date time and who you spoke with. And at least do a small claims yourself. $5k limit in most places. Could offset something. Judges like to favor plaintiff's in car repair cases.
I just hate to do that given the law clearly requires the selling dealer to cover all power train issues or take the car back if you have a power train issue within 15 days or 500 miles (I was 1 day and 30 miles). At this point I want them to take the car back but it may not be worth the 9-12 month process of suing them and likely acquiring a substantial legal bill to boot.
Do what it takes to make them take it back. You are at least two months from driving it even if you start writing checks. That motor will come from the UK and need to be installed. And there are 5K of additional parts that you will want to replace when you get the engine out.
Your woes are a great reason why an oil sample analysis is a good idea prior to purchase. It would have lots of metal in it (which has scrapped out across every oil passage in the dry sump and oil cooler and lines. Truly tragic and I am pained by your loss.
Does the Vantage have an oil temperature gauge? I now have one on my DB9 and I am in awe at how long it takes for the oil to warm up to 200 degrees. Engine wear goes up dramatically below about 180, and really oil should be 200-230 degrees. I think much of the wear and the grenading engines can be traced to premature excessive zeal. But without a gauge it's hard to judge.
I guess you mean 200 degrees F ?
And no, the Vantage does not have a oil temp gauge.
What I did in the beginning was putting a temp indicator stick onto the dry sump oil reservoir and checked every few km's - takes ~15km drive to get the oil >90°C at fresh ~15°C ambient. - MUCH longer than the water temp gauge indicates...
Last edited by TR-Spider; Jul 23, 2020 at 09:26 AM.
I guess you mean 200 degrees F ?
And no, the Vantage does not have a oil temp gauge.
What I did in the beginning was putting a temp indicator stick onto the dry sump oil reservoir and checked every few km's - takes ~15km drive to get the oil >90°C at fresh ~15°C ambient. - MUCH longer than the water temp gauge indicates...
That is about what my wetsump V-12 took to warm up. And much longer than the water. Makes sense - the oil has a much lower thermal conductivity - takes much longer to heat up:
Officially gave Aston the green light to start dissembling the motor to confirm the scope of the rebuild and get her back on the road. Will likely not see her for a while but on the bright side the crystal key arrived today so I can stare at that for a couple months
The good news is that confirmation will come once they drain the oil, or worst case drop the oil pan.
FWIW, here's what mine looked like minus two big end bearings. Biggest challenge was the metal fragments wiping out every bearing surface in the motor and polluting every oil passage.
Well it looks like the motor is toast. They pulled the oil pan and there's more metal in there than a Slayer concert. Replacement motors are at least $35k with way more miles than my car has not to mention labor on top. That being said, and I know this is blasphemous, but I'm seriously considering a swap. Given these cars share a lot of components including the block with Ford my first thought is a supercharged or TT Coyote build from that generation Mustang. Does anyone know what Ford block the 4.7 is based on? Or if this is even remotely feasible?
The dealer is reaching out to an exotic shop that they know of that does custom builds on Ferrari, Porsche, Lambo, etc. to see if they can point me in the right direction but I'm open to anything at this point. Any thoughts are welcome!
I did a search on Ebay, and there are few engines there for 10-13k. I would expect you can find others in this price range (or look at Copart for that matter).
No way a used engine would be 35k - you may want to find an independent shop to give you some other options price wise. I think it would be a lot more work to put in some other engine, and have it play nicely with the electronics.
Matt
Yeah I saw the 2 listed below but one has over 111,000 miles on it and the other seems to good to be true at that price with only 2,000 miles. Guess I'll reach out to the seller of the low mile example just to see what's up and start calling around to see if I can find a reputable independent shop.
It would be worth looking further afield too - Astonmartin bits has a 4.7 engine for 8k UKP. Shipping may not be too bad, and they are great to deal with.
Matt
Great find, thanks! I think I found a legit independent shop (came highly recommended by a trustworthy source) and they're working with me now. I will definitely forward this one over to them.
