I am in Northern NJ. Do you have an 08 M3?

I am trying to find a manual 335i since the dealer only had the car in auto to test drive. Audi tells me a 3 month wait for an 09 S5.

We'll see if I can find one of them to test drive too.

 

I think the S4 would be a great idea and I just happen to be selling mine if you are interested.....

 

I'm in Essex/Morris county. I have a 6MT 335i with a couple of mods.

 

Buy mine. Lighter & way faster than the B6-B7. Plus a lot cheaper and OE RS parts.

 

No offense to any B6/B7 S4 owners out there, but that car doesn't really fit a couple of your requirements, it's not fast and the aftermarket parts don't really make it fast. If I were in your situation I'd go with the 335i or wait for the S5. Like was said, the 335i has a pretty decent aftermarket for a car that's been out not too long, and you can get 80hp easily and cheaply. Looks good as well. I personally wouldn't be able to justify the extra $400+ dollars/mo for the M3, but I'm a turbo junkie

 

+100

 

S5 is no quicker than a B6 or B7 S4.

 

Statement or question? According to Audi's website the S5 has 14 more hp, 23 mor ft/lbs of torque, and is rated 4.9 sec 0-60 compared to the S4's 5.3. Ironically it weighs 22 more lbs As far as the mod-ability of the S5, it's the exact same, no real bang for the buck mods. I just like the stying of the S5 and quattro in the Audi so much better than the bimmer, but it will prob get worse gas mileage and be slower than a modded 335i.

 

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Originally Posted by jibberjive

Statement or question? According to Audi's website the S5 has 14 more hp, 23 mor ft/lbs of torque, and is rated 4.9 sec 0-60 compared to the S4's 5.3. Ironically it weighs 22 more lbs As far as the mod-ability of the S5, it's the exact same, no real bang for the buck mods. I just like the stying of the S5 and quattro in the Audi so much better than the bimmer, but it will prob get worse gas mileage and be slower than a modded 335i.

Statement and question I guess... numbers on paper are a little different in my opinion. I say this because I don't see the two cars with the output and weights and one beating the other to 60 almost a 1/2 second quicker. Don't get me wrong, I love all 3 being tossed into the comparison but after you mention the times, one would feel the difference in the SOP with the 60 times but between both at weights and numbers, one wouldn't be able to tell, especially when the crank numbers are translated to the wheels. Looks as if the drivetrain loss (efficiency) has drastically improved in the S5 by the looks of 0-60 times.

 

It's all relative I guess. I find the V8 S4 plenty quick and if you're not into modding, the V8 engine is so much better than the biturbo 6 (IMO of course).

 

Stage III Biturbo 6 would change your mind

 

Umm, "if you're not into modding". So, I guess a stage 3 biturbo is now stock

 

True, but one of the OP's factors is modability

 

I've been hearing the same thing too. 335i + Vishu tuning + uprated brake system is almost as good as an M3 and costs quite a bit less as well. I think it all depends on whether you are looking to track/race the car. For daily driving, it all boils down to how much more you are prepared to pay for extra performance that you may not need.

 

if you dont mind the gas milage, go for a now 60k bmw m5...I LOVE the s5, but the M5s are extremely good values now!