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I always add sway bars to my car becaue it does not effect the ride comfort but stops the lean in the corners. has anybody added sway bars to their S4? I have a 2006 S4 thanks
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I had the aftermarket front sway bar on my 2004 s4 removed, it was causing a horrible rubbing noise from contact with the undercarraig during tight turns. Had the original sway bar put back on and I cant really tell a difference, but I dont race it so thats probably why.
Generally speaking, it is not a good idea to try to make huge gains with sway bars. In other words, sway bars are there for tweaking and fine-tuning. I wouldn't expect much by adding sways on that car. If there are any gains, they are perceived or imagined, and not actual.
As far as aftermarket products, H-Sport offers some. I would recommend getting the RS4 rear sway bar (the fronts are the same) as it is only about $100 and bolts up perfectly (it is OEM after all). I will be doing this now that I have an aggressive street-biased c/o setup.
As far as aftermarket products, H-Sport offers some. I would recommend getting the RS4 rear sway bar (the fronts are the same) as it is only about $100 and bolts up perfectly (it is OEM after all). I will be doing this now that I have an aggressive street-biased c/o setup.
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S4 Sway is quite functional not leaving much room for improvement. IIRC it is a 22 or 24mm bar. I suppose you could go with an H-Sport or the RS 4 sway but you might not see much performance for the dollar. I would suggest against upgrading the front as many have found it to work in an adverse way on Audi's in general.
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Thanks for the information. I guess I will not do it. I guess because the car is so heavy it does not make that much of a difference. On my 911 turbo it made a big difference just adding sway bars. I wish I could lower my car and do a full suspension change but I can not because of drveway issues.
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Originally Posted by kraeburn
Generally speaking, it is not a good idea to try to make huge gains with sway bars. In other words, sway bars are there for tweaking and fine-tuning. I wouldn't expect much by adding sways on that car. If there are any gains, they are perceived or imagined, and not actual.
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[quote=kraeburn]Generally speaking, it is not a good idea to try to make huge gains with sway bars. In other words, sway bars are there for tweaking and fine-tuning. I wouldn't expect much by adding sways on that car. If there are any gains, they are perceived or imagined, and not actual.
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Sorry, but it's wrong...
Sway bars on Audi makes big different. especially if you track your car.
It helps to reduce body roll and give more neutral feeling that most AUDI doesnt have... Audi has big understeer.
RearSway bar is a big for the buck.. relatively cheaper than any other suspension mods and make bigggg improvement..
quote]
Sorry, but it's wrong...
Sway bars on Audi makes big different. especially if you track your car.
It helps to reduce body roll and give more neutral feeling that most AUDI doesnt have... Audi has big understeer.
RearSway bar is a big for the buck.. relatively cheaper than any other suspension mods and make bigggg improvement..
[quote=Park@mwd]
I think that you may have misunderstood me. I realize that sway bars can enhance the handling of any car--especially Audis. The point that I was trying to make was that they are not an end unto themsleves when it comes to correcting the innate understeery nature of the B6/B7 chassis.
The crux of my argument is that adding sway bars to an existing stock suspension is essentially a band-aid solution. Yes it will roll less than it did before but that is only part of the equation. It will still dive and squat like before. Also, there will be less independence between the wheels.
Sways do indeed offer value for the money, I never said they did not.
As you probably saw in my post, I recommended the RS4 rear sway bar. It will help alleviate some of the understeer. However, I fail to see how just adding a rear sway will make huge differences on the track.
Originally Posted by kraeburn
Generally speaking, it is not a good idea to try to make huge gains with sway bars. In other words, sway bars are there for tweaking and fine-tuning. I wouldn't expect much by adding sways on that car. If there are any gains, they are perceived or imagined, and not actual.
quote]
Sorry, but it's wrong...
Sway bars on Audi makes big different. especially if you track your car.
It helps to reduce body roll and give more neutral feeling that most AUDI doesnt have... Audi has big understeer.
RearSway bar is a big for the buck.. relatively cheaper than any other suspension mods and make bigggg improvement..
quote]
Sorry, but it's wrong...
Sway bars on Audi makes big different. especially if you track your car.
It helps to reduce body roll and give more neutral feeling that most AUDI doesnt have... Audi has big understeer.
RearSway bar is a big for the buck.. relatively cheaper than any other suspension mods and make bigggg improvement..
The crux of my argument is that adding sway bars to an existing stock suspension is essentially a band-aid solution. Yes it will roll less than it did before but that is only part of the equation. It will still dive and squat like before. Also, there will be less independence between the wheels.
Sways do indeed offer value for the money, I never said they did not.
As you probably saw in my post, I recommended the RS4 rear sway bar. It will help alleviate some of the understeer. However, I fail to see how just adding a rear sway will make huge differences on the track.
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[quote=kraeburn]
I think that you may have misunderstood me. I realize that sway bars can enhance the handling of any car--especially Audis. The point that I was trying to make was that they are not an end unto themsleves when it comes to correcting the innate understeery nature of the B6/B7 chassis.
The crux of my argument is that adding sway bars to an existing stock suspension is essentially a band-aid solution. Yes it will roll less than it did before but that is only part of the equation. It will still dive and squat like before. Also, there will be less independence between the wheels.
Sways do indeed offer value for the money, I never said they did not.
As you probably saw in my post, I recommended the RS4 rear sway bar. It will help alleviate some of the understeer. However, I fail to see how just adding a rear sway will make huge differences on the track.
I should have read more carefully, sorry I totally miss understood..
Originally Posted by Park@mwd
I think that you may have misunderstood me. I realize that sway bars can enhance the handling of any car--especially Audis. The point that I was trying to make was that they are not an end unto themsleves when it comes to correcting the innate understeery nature of the B6/B7 chassis.
The crux of my argument is that adding sway bars to an existing stock suspension is essentially a band-aid solution. Yes it will roll less than it did before but that is only part of the equation. It will still dive and squat like before. Also, there will be less independence between the wheels.
Sways do indeed offer value for the money, I never said they did not.
As you probably saw in my post, I recommended the RS4 rear sway bar. It will help alleviate some of the understeer. However, I fail to see how just adding a rear sway will make huge differences on the track.
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[quote=kraeburn]
I think that you may have misunderstood me. I realize that sway bars can enhance the handling of any car--especially Audis. The point that I was trying to make was that they are not an end unto themsleves when it comes to correcting the innate understeery nature of the B6/B7 chassis.
The crux of my argument is that adding sway bars to an existing stock suspension is essentially a band-aid solution. Yes it will roll less than it did before but that is only part of the equation. It will still dive and squat like before. Also, there will be less independence between the wheels.
Sways do indeed offer value for the money, I never said they did not.
As you probably saw in my post, I recommended the RS4 rear sway bar. It will help alleviate some of the understeer. However, I fail to see how just adding a rear sway will make huge differences on the track.
I had H&R coilovers and wider tires installed before i got the sways. that certainly aliviated alot of the push i was getting out the front end, the sways took that a step further. i think full suspension a set of nice grippy tires and a set of sways make for a balanced vehicle for everyday use. very safe and predictable but you can coax the rear end out and get nice controlled 4 wheel drifts around wider corners. but...my friend...if you want to get serious and get a little power oversteer going there are two other modifications you can do...
a modded stasis engineering Torsen diff (if you have an 06 or newer manual transmission s4, your car already has a 4:1 ration they can make you a 5:1 if you request it)
http://stasisengineering.com/Categor...&EN=53&PID=173
and for considerably more cash you can swing for a rear limited slip which should change the character of the car completly.
http://stasisengineering.com/Categor...&EN=53&PID=134
Originally Posted by Park@mwd
I think that you may have misunderstood me. I realize that sway bars can enhance the handling of any car--especially Audis. The point that I was trying to make was that they are not an end unto themsleves when it comes to correcting the innate understeery nature of the B6/B7 chassis.
The crux of my argument is that adding sway bars to an existing stock suspension is essentially a band-aid solution. Yes it will roll less than it did before but that is only part of the equation. It will still dive and squat like before. Also, there will be less independence between the wheels.
Sways do indeed offer value for the money, I never said they did not.
As you probably saw in my post, I recommended the RS4 rear sway bar. It will help alleviate some of the understeer. However, I fail to see how just adding a rear sway will make huge differences on the track.
a modded stasis engineering Torsen diff (if you have an 06 or newer manual transmission s4, your car already has a 4:1 ration they can make you a 5:1 if you request it)
http://stasisengineering.com/Categor...&EN=53&PID=173
and for considerably more cash you can swing for a rear limited slip which should change the character of the car completly.
http://stasisengineering.com/Categor...&EN=53&PID=134
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I would suggest against upgrading the front as many have found it to work in an adverse way on Audi's in general.
I've hear of guys going with H-Sport or RS4 rear bars on S4's in hopes of getting the rear end a little more playful, and eliminating that notorious nose heavy/Quattro understeer.
