335i hits 11.99@117.5mph almost stock!
#31
12-16-2008, 09:41 PM
If you don't want me to post, don't spread lies about my car.
Last edited by CURI0; 12-16-2008 at 09:49 PM.
#32
12-16-2008, 09:42 PM
No you can't compete, you don't have a car, so stop talking about what other people are doing as if you are doing it.
There were no 335's out there, buy one and come out instead of typing about what you think it can do.
Making yourself look stupid is talking about things when you weren't there and when you don't know.
The 335 internals aren't forged like the M3's, do you understand what that means? The block is magnesium-aluminum alloy, it is significantly weaker than the M3's which is made with the same aluminum-silicon material as the F1 blocks and at the same plant the F1 blocks are made. You get what you pay for.
Ever see what the E46 M3's put down with boost on the stock internals and block? The E92 M3 has stronger and lighter parts that rev higher, maybe do some research kid.
"I like how u said there were no 335's out there that day even though the timeslips match by the date and you said you were there when you watched Terry's 135 trap 120mph so now your just making your self look stupid as if you didn't already do that thanks" Is this even English? What are you even trying to say?
There were no 335's out there, buy one and come out instead of typing about what you think it can do.
Making yourself look stupid is talking about things when you weren't there and when you don't know.
The 335 internals aren't forged like the M3's, do you understand what that means? The block is magnesium-aluminum alloy, it is significantly weaker than the M3's which is made with the same aluminum-silicon material as the F1 blocks and at the same plant the F1 blocks are made. You get what you pay for.
Ever see what the E46 M3's put down with boost on the stock internals and block? The E92 M3 has stronger and lighter parts that rev higher, maybe do some research kid.
"I like how u said there were no 335's out there that day even though the timeslips match by the date and you said you were there when you watched Terry's 135 trap 120mph so now your just making your self look stupid as if you didn't already do that thanks" Is this even English? What are you even trying to say?
I thought the E46's had weak internals and are limited to the amount of boost they can handle?
I agree though, new M3 is worth the extra $ over the 335i IMO. The E92 has a crazy flat torque curve and is so much more balanced. Both cars stock still cant touch my IS-F
down the strip!
#33
12-16-2008, 09:47 PM
As for the rest, the modded "lesser model" vs. stock "premium model" is ricer, useless and just plain stupid. Let's avoid that.
I think a good indicator is BMW will be concentrating on the V8 in racing (ALMS, etc) not the TT 6.
Now, to throw another wrench into the debate, BMW also announced moving away from high-revving motors to FI due to emissions, etc. Hopefully the means the next gen. 335 gets forged internals?
Last edited by Deuuuce; 12-16-2008 at 09:52 PM.
#34
12-16-2008, 09:48 PM
I thought the E46's had weak internals and are limited to the amount of boost they can handle?
I agree though, new M3 is worth the extra $ over the 335i IMO. The E92 has a crazy flat torque curve and is so much more balanced. Both cars stock still cant touch my IS-F down the strip!
I agree though, new M3 is worth the extra $ over the 335i IMO. The E92 has a crazy flat torque curve and is so much more balanced. Both cars stock still cant touch my IS-F
down the strip!You thought wrong, the E46 M3 handles over 600 wheel on stock internals, incredibly strong at 11.5:1 compression. The limiting factor on the boost is the fuel quality and tuning, not the strength of the internals.
#35
12-16-2008, 10:22 PM
weakest in class?
12.27 stock C63 AMG
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes
12.38 stock IS-F
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes
12.5 stock M3
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...e=10&carmake=5
13.01 stock RS-4 (discontinued)
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes
Goodnight..........don't forget to make that apt to fix your "amazing" DCT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oyQS...eature=related
12.27 stock C63 AMG
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes
12.38 stock IS-F
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes
12.5 stock M3
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...e=10&carmake=5
13.01 stock RS-4 (discontinued)
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes
Goodnight..........don't forget to make that apt to fix your "amazing" DCT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oyQS...eature=related
Last edited by 8speed; 12-16-2008 at 10:25 PM.
#36
12-16-2008, 10:41 PM
weakest in class?
12.27 stock C63 AMG
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes
12.38 stock IS-F
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes
12.5 stock M3
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php?resultpage=3&carmodel=110&data1=100&op 1=>=&data2=1000&op2=<=&search2=et&days=10000000&st ock=&dyno=&resultsperpage=10&carmake=5
13.01 stock RS-4 (discontinued)
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes
Goodnight..........don't forget to make that apt to fix your "amazing" DCT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oyQS...eature=related
12.27 stock C63 AMG
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes
12.38 stock IS-F
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes
12.5 stock M3
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php?resultpage=3&carmodel=110&data1=100&op 1=>=&data2=1000&op2=<=&search2=et&days=10000000&st ock=&dyno=&resultsperpage=10&carmake=5
13.01 stock RS-4 (discontinued)
http://www.dragtimes.com/results.php...arch+DragTimes
Goodnight..........don't forget to make that apt to fix your "amazing" DCT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oyQS...eature=related
Since you like dragtimes so much:
M3 DCT 12.1: http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW-M3-Timeslip-17264.html
Is there a faster ISF? Nope.
Do we even need to talk about what would happen around a track? Nope.
Good night, enjoy your Toyota.
#38
12-16-2008, 11:39 PM
Just going by NA numbers posted for now.
#39
12-16-2008, 11:49 PM
Apples and oranges brother
Last edited by 8speed; 12-16-2008 at 11:51 PM.
#40
12-17-2008, 12:19 AM
If you consider bolt on's a lot of work, you can't grasp basic tuning. Plus, the only thing you are ever going to hold on to vs. an M3 is straight line. The other aspects of the car are a joke in comparison.
You apparently don't understand the trim levels of the M3, the manual is a bit slower than the DCT, but it doesn't matter, at least the car doesn't come in Automatic or with fake exhaust tips.
Last edited by CURI0; 12-17-2008 at 12:27 AM.
#44
12-17-2008, 03:42 PM
From a stop, the manual puts more torque down in first, and you have more control over the launch so I would say the manual definitely has an advantage from a stop.
At higher speeds gearing and torque multiplication does not matter as much as you spend much more time in gear. So above 130 or so I would expect the manual and the DCT to be the same as they both have the same amount of power.
Just depends on what the individual wants, in my opinion it is not physically possible to shift faster than the DCT.
#45
12-18-2008, 11:21 AM
Which test? I ran side by side with a manual from a roll, the gearing on the DCT is very tight from 2nd-4th and it showed.
From a stop, the manual puts more torque down in first, and you have more control over the launch so I would say the manual definitely has an advantage from a stop.
At higher speeds gearing and torque multiplication does not matter as much as you spend much more time in gear. So above 130 or so I would expect the manual and the DCT to be the same as they both have the same amount of power.
Just depends on what the individual wants, in my opinion it is not physically possible to shift faster than the DCT.
From a stop, the manual puts more torque down in first, and you have more control over the launch so I would say the manual definitely has an advantage from a stop.
At higher speeds gearing and torque multiplication does not matter as much as you spend much more time in gear. So above 130 or so I would expect the manual and the DCT to be the same as they both have the same amount of power.
Just depends on what the individual wants, in my opinion it is not physically possible to shift faster than the DCT.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/..._test/(page)/1
Above 120 it pulls away. A nearly 2 second differential to 150mph is significant. It's pretty awesome, but it's not perfected yet from a performance standpoint.
Last edited by Deuuuce; 12-18-2008 at 11:24 AM.