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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Jmoney
WAIT what? I would not run you? Are you on crack? Seriously! LOL I'm laughing my *** off HARD right now FIND where I said I wouldn't run you please!! Whoever said their correction factors are off should post some proof. First of all I dynoed 310whp Baseline and the CF stayed the same all the runs so unless you have proof then stfu and stop spreading rumors.

If the correction factors are REALLY screwed up then how eactly did I Dyno in the ball park of the stock M3's at the RPI dyno? Infact one guy dynoed supposedly 330whp on RPI's Dyno Dynamics. I still dynoed 310whp so who's numbers would be false?

I thought you were supposed to come up Gintani to dyno with their exhaust on your car and you never did so you should be the last guy talking. What about that whole you were supposed to come up and swap exhaust with their car you never did so quit *****ing you have no grounds to talk all because someone lost a race? Hmm lets see DRIVER has alot to do with it I dunno how well Brian shifts but thats a big factor when going up against a DCT car. Not only that but I did alot better then he did on with less power against Drew when I only had bolt-ons. So that alone tells you what driver has to do with it. Anyway please stop you BS right there saying I never wanted to run you are really tripping ya ok I've done all these pulls but I wouldn't run you lol. Everytime I brought up running your car was being worked on your house was on fire your teeth were getting fixed it was too early in the morning all these excuses yet you have the nerve to say I never wanted to run you! Whatever!! A real race would be a DCT car with GINTANI MODS or a 6MT car vs Brian with RPI mods until then that whole fake HP story is trash. Just like most RPI stuff thanks....
You may as well stop writing, I have no tolerance for liars.

You went around saying your numbers were uncorrected, well well, looks like the numbers don't add up. YOU LIED, PERIOD. You did it to get a discount on your exhaust and to help Gintani peddle their exhausts. This is transparent.

Proof? Uh, Nightriders car is putting down 390 on the DD. Drew's car is putting down 36x on a Mustang. Something isn't adding up, now is it? Everyone knows the Gintani numbers are corrected, stop your BS already.

Yes, I was supposed to come up. What a coincidence I never got a phone call. Seems like you have an issue with your memory, here is the PM from me on m3forum:

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'm sure you saw the numbers, that other Gintani car put down 390 on the DD, how the ****?

Anyway, just let me know when you talk to them and I can try out that exhaust, maybe their pulley too.

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Ya I guess they said can't do it till after Bimmerfest because of the S/C Project I was there till 2am They're hard at work.
That was back in April kid, way to get back to me, thanks.

What a coincidence you never wanted to run after I asked you to on N54tech. Lucky for you, you don't have the setup anymore not that you would meet up and run anyway. Plus, I have no respect for liars, so everything you say from now on is pretty much meaningless. Everyone is already seeing the light, just take a look at the posts questioning Gintani's numbers.

Your baseline numbers obviously are not corrected, stop hanging onto it. Unless you really want people to believe the car jumps from 310 to 390 wheel on Gintani's magical dyno? Right... 80 wheel gains NA now on a DD. The issue isn't your baseline genius, its the final numbers posted TO GET ATTENTION AND SELL EXHAUSTS.

Keep racing on the Dyno instead of in the real world, works out better for you
 

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You may as well stop writing, I have no tolerance for liars.

You went around saying your numbers were uncorrected, well well, looks like the numbers don't add up. YOU LIED, PERIOD. You did it to get a discount on your exhaust and to help Gintani peddle their exhausts. This is transparent.

Proof? Uh, Nightriders car is putting down 390 on the DD. Drew's car is putting down 36x on a Mustang. Something isn't adding up, now is it? Everyone knows the Gintani numbers are corrected, stop your BS already.

Yes, I was supposed to come up. What a coincidence I never got a phone call. What a coincidence you never wanted to run after I asked you to on N54tech. Lucky for you, you don't have the setup anymore not that you would meet up and run anyway. Plus, I have no respect for liars, so everything you say from now on is pretty much meaningless. Everyone is already seeing the light, just take a look at the posts questioning Gintani's numbers.

Your baseline numbers obvously is not corrected, stop hanging onto it. Unless you really want people to believe the car jumps from 310 to 390 wheel on Gintani's magical dyno? Right... 80 wheel gains now. The issue isn't your baseline genius, its the final numbers posted TO GET ATTENTION AND SELL EXHAUSTS.

Keep racing on the Dyno
ALL my dyno including my baseline and Dynojet/Dynapack runs have ALWAYS been SAE corrected. What do you mean you never got a call I was there when you called Gintani loser. What do you expect them to do come looking for you to prove a point to you that their exhaust is Superior to your RPI? I don't think so if you wanted it there was nothing stopping you to come up at anytime I even told you to call me when you got there and I'd come watch. Like I said find the post where I said I wouldn't run you because that thought has NEVER been in my mind ever! I LOVE to run don't you remember you called me the "Professional Street racer" So since when would I not want to run you? HAHAH you're the biggest loser I've ever seen online if you're gonna sit there and try to talk **** and say that I wouldn't run you And have the audacity to call me a liar because SOMEONE ELSE lost a race! There are truley no words for that kind of dumb sorry. Ya just because your RPI junk couldn't keep up and scoops didn't work then don't call BS because you saw some race and think somehow their numbers are fake get real You're gonna need more proof then that when I was N/A I was available to do back to back runs between your car and mine but you flaked so how is that Gintani's fault?
 
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ALL my dyno including my baseline and Dynojet/Dynapack runs have ALWAYS been SAE corrected. What do you mean you never got a call I was there when you called Gintani loser. What do you expect them to do come looking for you to prove a point to you that their exhaust is Superior to your RPI? I don't think so if you wanted it there was nothing stopping you to come up at anytime I even told you to call me when you got there and I'd come watch. Like I said find the post where I said I wouldn't run you because that thought has NEVER been in my mind ever! I LOVE to run don't you remember you called me the "Professional Street racer" So since when would I not want to run you? HAHAH you're the biggest loser I've ever seen online if you're gonna sit there and try to talk **** and say that I wouldn't run you And have the audacity to call me a liar because SOMEONE ELSE lost a race! There are truley no words for that kind of dumb sorry. Ya just because your RPI junk couldn't keep up and scoops didn't work then don't call BS because you saw some race and think somehow their numbers are fake get real You're gonna need more proof then that when I was N/A I was available to do back to back runs between your car and mine but you flaked so how is that Gintani's fault?
Uh, no, what I expect is what YOU said. You are "tight" with Gintani, as you told me, right? You said you would talk to them about having me come up and dyno. No response, ever.

I called to get the ball rolling, and was told they would call me back. NEVER got that call, never got another response from you. Still confused?

I'm the loser because I found the numbers bogus and wanted to get to the bottom of it? A loser is someone who goes around using 15% corrected dyno numbers to claim their exhaust is better and that they are faster, because they are scared to get on a drag strip and prove it.

I'm calling you a liar because you posted the numbers and they don't add up. You you went around saying how your car is faster because you posted higher dyno numbers. Get it yet? Are you really saying your M3 gained 70 wheel with bolt on's on a dyno dynamics? Think hard before you post about this one.

I flaked? Because I never agreed to wake up at 4 AM and street race? You mean, how instead of racing like some idiot on the street, I TOOK IT TO THE TRACK, yet you didn't? Let me know when you run a faster 1/4, you will need your supercharger to do it. That, or someone to photoshop the results you want.

Try using paragraphs, maybe you need someone to correct your posts as well
 

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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by CURI0
You may as well stop writing, I have no tolerance for liars.

You went around saying your numbers were uncorrected, well well, looks like the numbers don't add up. YOU LIED, PERIOD. You did it to get a discount on your exhaust and to help Gintani peddle their exhausts. This is transparent.

Proof? Uh, Nightriders car is putting down 390 on the DD. Drew's car is putting down 36x on a Mustang. Something isn't adding up, now is it? Everyone knows the Gintani numbers are corrected, stop your BS already.

Yes, I was supposed to come up. What a coincidence I never got a phone call. Seems like you have an issue with your memory, here is the PM from me on m3forum:





That was back in April kid, way to get back to me, thanks.

What a coincidence you never wanted to run after I asked you to on N54tech. Lucky for you, you don't have the setup anymore not that you would meet up and run anyway. Plus, I have no respect for liars, so everything you say from now on is pretty much meaningless. Everyone is already seeing the light, just take a look at the posts questioning Gintani's numbers.

Your baseline numbers obviously are not corrected, stop hanging onto it. Unless you really want people to believe the car jumps from 310 to 390 wheel on Gintani's magical dyno? Right... 80 wheel gains NA now on a DD. The issue isn't your baseline genius, its the final numbers posted TO GET ATTENTION AND SELL EXHAUSTS.

Keep racing on the Dyno instead of in the real world, works out better for you
Thats the dumbest post I've ever seen. Ya where in those PM's does it say I won't run you? You weren't asking to run me You were asking When Gintani had the time to swap your exhaust.If you would have asked me then to run I probably would have made the trip that same night. Hence it says THEY can't do it because THEY are busy with their S/C Kit development where does it say I can't/won't run you? Quit you BS come again with a better MUCH better proof where I said I wouldn't run you... I'll be waiting.
 
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Uh, no, what I expect is what YOU said. You are "tight" with Gintani, as you told me, right? You said you would talk to them about having me come up and dyno. No response, ever.

I called to get the ball rolling, and was told they would call me back. NEVER got that call, never got another response from you. Still confused?

I'm the loser because I found the numbers bogus and wanted to get to the bottom of it? A loser is someone who goes around using 15% corrected dyno numbers to claim their exhaust is better and that they are faster, because they are scared to get on a drag strip and prove it.

I'm calling you a liar because you posted the numbers and they don't add up. You you went around saying how your car is faster because you posted higher dyno numbers. Get it yet? Are you really saying your M3 gained 70 wheel with bolt on's on a dyno dynamics? Think hard before you post about this one.

I flaked? Because I never agreed to wake up at 4 AM and street race? You mean, how instead of racing like some idiot on the street, I TOOK IT TO THE TRACK, yet you didn't? Let me know when you run a faster 1/4, you will need your supercharger to do it. That, or someone to photoshop the results you want.

Try using paragraphs, maybe you need someone to correct your posts as well
Since when is it my job to get Gintani to call you I'm not an employee of theirs. If you wanted to do it so bad then you should have picked up the phone after bimmerfest and asked them what does that have to do with me. Thats like me asking you to have RPI call me to buy their tin can exhaust and when I don't get a call back call you a liar wtf are you talking about?

Some guy just posted some dumb **** that Gintani with 15% correction factor with no proof and all the sudden thats somehow a fact that you go by? Does that mean I can say the same about RPI then? I bet that guy has never even seen Gintani so how would he know this? Thanks.

I made 70whp thats a FACT no one including you can argue that because I have all the charts to prove it I didnt even get that great a deal on the exhaust so what benefit does it do me to LIE for Gintani? Ya thanks. Like I said I've never been scared to go to the track they're not exactly open everyday and it might not agree with my schedule so what the hell am I supposed to do about that? The same way you can't make time to run me and drew all the times we invited you is the same why I can't make the time to run on a track. I havent even had the mods that long moron.
 

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Clear from the videos Gintani's dyno numbers are bogus.
Hey Bro, I don't think the #'s are bogus, Jon Martin and I were very close before he installed the blower when he dynoed at 378, I just think the DCT is that much faster, even with less power, when I ran another 6mt car with a few bolt ons I pulled pretty good as well, but not so much with the other DCT. Brian and I only ran once that day, should have ran a few more times to be sure.

Forgot to mention that I saw Brian's Gintani E90 run the Modded M5 as well that day, they looked even up to high speeds before they let off. You should come out and do some pulls next time we run!
 

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Originally Posted by CURI0
Uh, no, what I expect is what YOU said. You are "tight" with Gintani, as you told me, right? You said you would talk to them about having me come up and dyno. No response, ever.

I called to get the ball rolling, and was told they would call me back. NEVER got that call, never got another response from you. Still confused?

I'm the loser because I found the numbers bogus and wanted to get to the bottom of it? A loser is someone who goes around using 15% corrected dyno numbers to claim their exhaust is better and that they are faster, because they are scared to get on a drag strip and prove it.

I'm calling you a liar because you posted the numbers and they don't add up. You you went around saying how your car is faster because you posted higher dyno numbers. Get it yet? Are you really saying your M3 gained 70 wheel with bolt on's on a dyno dynamics? Think hard before you post about this one.

I flaked? Because I never agreed to wake up at 4 AM and street race? You mean, how instead of racing like some idiot on the street, I TOOK IT TO THE TRACK, yet you didn't? Let me know when you run a faster 1/4, you will need your supercharger to do it. That, or someone to photoshop the results you want.

Try using paragraphs, maybe you need someone to correct your posts as well

The Owner if Gintani said he is willing to go back to the shop and pickup Brians car to run your car right now since you said people are afraid to run you. So here it is YOU are getting called out Tonight don't be a loser again and make up some excuse he's willing to drop what he's doing just to run you so should be able to do the same unless you're performing open heart surgery. Don't make any excuses It has to be tonight because Brians car is going to be worked on for his next project starting tommorrow.

So prove to everyone that you're not just a **** talker that likes to run his mouth and run him I'll PM you his number as soon as you respond. Brian already said he gave permission for this run and he's ready to do it now.
 
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whoa this thread is getting crazy. when i originally posted about my correction factor it was simply from what i was told. to put this whole rpi/gintani thing to rest, we should just have a mexico run with a dct rpi vs dct gintani m3 or a 6sp. im willing to run a 6sp gintani car since im running a 6sp with the full rpi. i cant run tonight since my cars in the shop getting my performance steering wheel put on.
 
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whoa this thread is getting crazy. when i originally posted about my correction factor it was simply from what i was told. to put this whole rpi/gintani thing to rest, we should just have a mexico run with a dct rpi vs dct gintani m3 or a 6sp. im willing to run a 6sp gintani car since im running a 6sp with the full rpi. i cant run tonight since my cars in the shop getting my performance steering wheel put on.
Sounds like a plan, we should set it up!
 
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whoa this thread is getting crazy. when i originally posted about my correction factor it was simply from what i was told. to put this whole rpi/gintani thing to rest, we should just have a mexico run with a dct rpi vs dct gintani m3 or a 6sp. im willing to run a 6sp gintani car since im running a 6sp with the full rpi. i cant run tonight since my cars in the shop getting my performance steering wheel put on.

Ya I apologize if I came off like an ******* but bro you need facts before you post statements like that up. Just because someone said doesn't mean thats what it is.
 
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Ya I apologize if I came off like an ******* but bro you need facts before you post statements like that up. Just because someone said doesn't mean thats what it is.
nah its cool. im just repeating what i was told, whether it was true or not who knows, im not trying to add fuel to the fire. hopefully one day i can run a gintani car so the cars can do the talking not us.
 
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nah its cool. im just repeating what i was told, whether it was true or not who knows, im not trying to add fuel to the fire. hopefully one day i can run a gintani car so the cars can do the talking not us.
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The Owner if Gintani said he is willing to go back to the shop and pickup Brians car to run your car right now since you said people are afraid to run you. So here it is YOU are getting called out Tonight don't be a loser again and make up some excuse he's willing to drop what he's doing just to run you so should be able to do the same unless you're performing open heart surgery. Don't make any excuses It has to be tonight because Brians car is going to be worked on for his next project starting tommorrow.

So prove to everyone that you're not just a **** talker that likes to run his mouth and run him I'll PM you his number as soon as you respond. Brian already said he gave permission for this run and he's ready to do it now.
The numbers have nothing to do with my car, thanks for trying to take it off topic though.

The owner is willing to go run me right now? Haha, how mature. If he wants to prove his numbers, tell him to get his *** on a strip. Does not change ANYTHING regarding what the video shows.

If you want to do a comparison, as I did, then get both cars on the same dyno, at the same place, on the same day. That is what I wanted to do, but it never came about, because no one ever followed up with me. Like I said earlier, the numbers don't add up, period. Do you really think if you put a car with the RPI exhaust on a dyno and the Gintani exhaust on the same dyno, the Gintani one is going to show another 30 wheel? No, it won't, so don't go around running your mouth about having a faster car and better exhaust when you can't back it up anywhere other than with using a higher % correction.

To Gintani's credit, they never claimed the numbers were uncorrected and to offer far more power than the competition, YOU DID, end of story.
 
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Hey Bro, I don't think the #'s are bogus, Jon Martin and I were very close before he installed the blower when he dynoed at 378, I just think the DCT is that much faster, even with less power, when I ran another 6mt car with a few bolt ons I pulled pretty good as well, but not so much with the other DCT. Brian and I only ran once that day, should have ran a few more times to be sure.

Forgot to mention that I saw Brian's Gintani E90 run the Modded M5 as well that day, they looked even up to high speeds before they let off. You should come out and do some pulls next time we run!
The car you ran in the video is the higher dynoing car, correct? Do you really believe it is putting down 390 on a dyno dynamics compared to your numbers? The DD reads lower than the Mustang. Even if he shifted slow, he should have caught and passed you, especialy considering the manual has less weight and the gearing favors it after the DCT's 3rd.

I have a good amount of experience of the manual vs. the DCT of my own, the DCT can not make up a 30 wheel difference up top.

You are first on my list to run, simply for comparison purposes of a modded DCT vs. a modded DCT. Car is getting some work for a while, can't really go into it right now.
 

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The numbers have nothing to do with my car, thanks for trying to take it off topic though.

The owner is willing to go run me right now? Haha, how mature. If he wants to prove his numbers, tell him to get his *** on a strip. Does not change ANYTHING regarding what the video shows.

If you want to do a comparison, as I did, then get both cars on the same dyno, at the same place, on the same day. That is what I wanted to do, but it never came about, because no one ever followed up with me. Like I said earlier, the numbers don't add up, period. Do you really think if you put a car with the RPI exhaust on a dyno and the Gintani exhaust on the same dyno, the Gintani one is going to show another 30 wheel? No, it won't, so don't go around running your mouth about having a faster car and better exhaust when you can't back it up anywhere other than with using a higher % correction.

To Gintani's credit, they never claimed the numbers were uncorrected and to offer far more power than the competition, YOU DID, end of story.
First of all YOU were the skeptical one not me so why should I have to follow up to you? When you were PM'in me whining about how you want that kind of power you weren't calling BS then now that I can't prove it anymore because I'm supercharged its somehow BS all of a sudden now. No one said the Exahust alone made 30whp on top of the RPi Its a combination of a Tune AND the Superior exhaust that makes the power. I have always stated that my Dyno's were SAE corrected with the same LOAD on every single pull I've made at Gintani. Like I've said I'm not an Employee of Gintani so It doesn't help me to LIE on their behalf what do I get out of it a lousy $200 bucks off the retail at the cost of my credibility?

I don't think so buddy if It was BS I'd be the first to call BS. Countless people have witnessed the runs for themselves, people that have M3's and people that don't at Gintani. You would think if it was such BS people would have called it a long time ago with some sort of hard proof. Post a quote of me saying anything other then my pulls were all SAE corrected.
 


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