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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 06:08 PM
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What is so special about the Boxster?

I don't mean it in a negative way. I am just wondering what exactly it is that makes a Boxster so special. They are expensive for what they are I think and is it just me but I have never heard of it even being the same as the 911 (you won't understand until you drive one) kind of fanaticism... They are more often than not outperformed and for MUCH less (C5 Corvette, C6 Corvette, E46 M3 etc)... I am just wondering if there is something that I am missing that can't really be put on paper? I mean they look alright, but I also heard of Boxster motors going splat and that it was a manufacturer fatal flaw that is due to happen no matter what you try or replace.
 
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Well that 987 is an S I think... which is almost a $60,000 car. And I swore someone told me the 986 had a fatal engine flaw from the get go that can't be repaired, only kept up with and it was just a matter of time before the engine needed replacement no matter what the year or model.
 
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Yes engine issues have been discussed to death on all the boxster forums.

For me I just stop worrying about it long time ago, IMO it's an overblown issue due to the internet. It's really luck of the draw. If my engine blows up tomorrow that's great because I'll drop in a 3.6L in there without thinking twice.
 
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Stolen from an Edmunds review

After nearly 11 years in production, the midengine Porsche Boxster doesn't rank like it used to. During commutes across the Los Angeles concrete diaspora, the 2007 Porsche Boxster S disappears into the ocean of cars as if it were a Plymouth Voyager. The parking valets don't fight for its keys anymore and the car wash guys don't feel obliged to break out fresh clean towels to dry it.

So what? The two-seat roadster remains the best pure driving machine Porsche builds.

Now running the same 295-hp 3.4-liter, 24-valve, flat-6 used in the Cayman S, the Boxster S mixes the Cayman S's instantaneous reflexes with the mechanical connection that only comes with an open roadster. The Boxster S may not excite the gas station attendants like it once did, but drive this car once and there's every chance you'll never want to drive anything else.

Cayman Breeds a Better Boxster Engine
When the Cayman S coupe was introduced last year, there was some mechanical distinction between it and the Boxster S roadster. Sure they both packed Porsche's signature flat-6 just forward of their rear wheels, but where the Boxster S used a 280-horsepower 3.2-liter version of that engine, the Cayman S had a 3.4-liter variation rated at 295 hp. For 2007, however, that distinction is gone, as the Boxster S now uses the same 3.4 as the Cayman S.

At first glance the major differences between the old 3.2 and the 3.4 don't amount to much more than an increase in cylinder bore size from 93.0 to 96 millimeters and a slight increase in compression ratio from 11.0:1 to 11.1:1. However, the 3.4 uses the same cylinder heads as the 911's 3.6-liter flat-6, which includes Porsche's Variocam variable valve timing system.

That means the 15 pound-foot bounce in peak torque rating — at 4,400 rpm instead of 4,700 rpm — and how all that torque hangs around until 6,000 rpm makes the biggest difference in performance.

That generous torque band makes this an extremely easy car in which to go very fast. But it also makes it a very pleasant car in everyday use. The Boxster S will happily putter along in traffic all day, cycling between 15 and 45 mph, with the transmission left in 2nd gear and never show any strain. You don't have to go fast in the Boxster S to have fun, but when you go fast it's an amazing amount of fun.

Dang Quick
And it goes fast. But launching the 3,100-pound Boxster S for maximum acceleration isn't a subtle affair. Dump the clutch at about 4,800 rpm, and after some destructive-sounding axle tramp, the car whomps to 60 mph in 5.0 seconds. The quarter-mile goes by in 13.4 seconds at 104.6 mph. That's right on top of the 5.0-second 0-60 time and 13.2 seconds at 105-mph performance we measured for the 2,954-pound 2006 Cayman S last year.

Porsche's Tiptronic five-speed automatic is an option, but most Boxster S buyers will do the right thing and choose the standard six-speed manual transmission. Introduced as part of the Boxster's major updating back in 2005, the six-speed has nice short throws and a light, precise action.

The ratio spread between the four lower gears is nicely tight, with 5th being a slight overdrive (0.97:1) and 6th (0.82:1) an even deeper overdrive best reserved for freeway cruising. Combine those cogs with a short 3.875:1 final-drive ratio and the flat-6's plump torque curve and it's tough to imagine a friendlier, more entertaining sports car drivetrain. Well, at least it's tough until you start your imagining with the word "turbo."

Coccyx-Based Chassis Tuning
With the Boxster's engine positioned just forward of its rear wheels, this car's center of gravity is somewhere between the driver's coccyx and the base of his skull. This results in the driver feeling as if he's smack in the middle of the action. Which he is. The scales indicate that without the driver aboard, the Boxster S carries 53.3 percent of its weight on the rear tires.

There are struts at all four corners, so there's nothing particularly exotic about the Boxster S's all-independent suspension. But the suspension is brilliantly effective, particularly when matched with the relatively large optional P235/35ZR19 front and P265/35ZR19 rear Michelin Pilot Sport tires.

Although there's some body roll, the Boxster S is a veritable rocket through the slalom test, clocking an astonishing 71.1-mph average speed. It's not as quick as the narrowly focused Lotus Exige S (74.0 mph), but it's just barely slower than the stiffer-structured Cayman S (72.2 mph). It also orbited the skid pad at an unbelievable 0.96g and stopped from 60 mph in just 105 feet. Both are supercar numbers. In the Boxster, corners aren't so much attacked as they are autopsied with scalpellike precision.

Despite its awesome grip, the Boxster's ride is compliant and comfortable. Even if a wheel dips into a good-size pothole at the apex of a corner, the car doesn't lose its composure or inflict much pain upon its occupants. This is a great-handling and very forgiving car, with absolutely sensational variable-ratio rack-and-pinion steering.

Nearly Practical
When Porsche introduced the Cayman, it bragged that the hardtop's structure had 100-percent greater bending resistance than the zip-top Boxster. That may imply that the Boxster's structure is somehow a compromise. It isn't. This is one of the stiffest roadsters around. Drive it over train tracks with the top down and the cowl barely seems to shift.

With modest-size trunks both front and rear, the Boxster S will carry enough luggage for two over a long weekend. It's also luxuriously appointed with well-shaped (heated) seats, power this and that and leather-wrapped everything.

With the top down, the wind doesn't so much intrude upon the ****pit as wrap around it. And the lack of anything between the driver and the exhaust system means this engine's glorious voice is more vivid than in any other Porsche.

Our only comfort complaint regards the Boxster's narrow footwells, which can make heel-and-toe shifting difficult for anyone wearing boots. So wear ballet slippers instead. Or go barefoot. Or if that doesn't work, hack off your outside toes until your feet are slim enough for the Boxster. It's worth it.

Of course, none of this comes cheap. Even before options, the Boxster S is $56,295 and our test car stickered for a breathtaking $64,805. Porsche has never been shy about charging two arms, two legs and half an abdomen for its options. Our tester's extra-cost items included its metallic silver paint ($690), gorgeously chocolate leather upholstery ($2,525), bi-xenon headlamps ($1,080) and $185 for wheel center caps with the painted logos.

Always Fun
Combining the Boxster chassis with the 3.4-liter engine's broad torque curve results in something almost mystical — a Porsche that mixes all the best sensations of early open Porsches like the original 356 Speedster and 550 Spyder, with an easygoing muscularity and shocking level of comfort. The 2007 Porsche Boxster S is a car that's impossible not to love — and impossible to drive without having two trunkloads of fun.

It's not like the parking valets, car wash guys or pump jockeys can afford it anyhow.
 
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^^^ +1 ^^^

I wanted a convertible and IMHO the 911 Cabrio just doesn't look right.
 
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i like my S more than the C4s i just swapped out a few months ago.

nice balance- lighter- more fun
 
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I too, traded my C4S for the Boxster S recently. I test drove the 997s and although it is faster in most respects, the boxster just had a higher fun factor, imo. You don't have to be going 30mph faster than the speed limit to put a smile on your face. Bottom line, I was looking for something a little different and have found that the Boxster is just so dang fun! There will always be faster cars and I've grown tired of chasing to own the fastest one, maybe it's my age. My S will not be the fastest, but it'll do just fine against 90% of the cars out there and there's alot to be said for balance.
 
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There is a philosophy to Porsche. The whole should be greater than the sum of the parts. The Boxster is very much an elemental Porsche, agile, balanced, and poised. The driving experience emphasizes chasis handling and steering feedback providing the driver with a sense of control and precision that is highly satisfying. Strip away 50 years of EPA and DOT regulations (clean and safe: slower, larger, heavier) and you have the 550, one of the great sports cars of all time. The formula doesn't appeal to everyone, which is why there are other choices of automobiles.
 
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If you have to ask that question then PLEASE go buy a Corvette or something else cause the BOXSTER is NOT !!! the car for you . Just take a look at DJMIROKE"s car.I bet he has the Biggest GRIN on his face everytime he turns the key .You wont find many Red Neck Nascar fans driving Porsches .they are simply 2 very different types of people..If you cannot see that the Boxster is Just a Frigin PLEASURE TRIP every time you get in then you are probally on the other side of the fence and no offence to ya thats just the way it is . I have a brother in law that only buys american muscle cars and always BRAGS about his HP!! and i still love him the same . You do not buy a boxster to have the highest HORESPOWER BRAGGING RIGHTS on the block you buy a Porsche to own a porsche.And seriously I feel like the Luckiest person every time i turn the key. looking at the economy and my 401K that i just lost 3/4 of my life savings When I got in my Cayman today is was Happy .Thanks Porsche
 
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Originally Posted by Porschepet
If you have to ask that question then PLEASE go buy a Corvette or something else cause the BOXSTER is NOT !!! the car for you . Just take a look at DJMIROKE"s car.I bet he has the Biggest GRIN on his face everytime he turns the key .You wont find many Red Neck Nascar fans driving Porsches .they are simply 2 very different types of people..If you cannot see that the Boxster is Just a Frigin PLEASURE TRIP every time you get in then you are probally on the other side of the fence and no offence to ya thats just the way it is . I have a brother in law that only buys american muscle cars and always BRAGS about his HP!! and i still love him the same . You do not buy a boxster to have the highest HORESPOWER BRAGGING RIGHTS on the block you buy a Porsche to own a porsche.And seriously I feel like the Luckiest person every time i turn the key. looking at the economy and my 401K that i just lost 3/4 of my life savings When I got in my Cayman today is was Happy .Thanks Porsche
Yes this car definitely makes me happy every time I drive it. I have to look at it every time I shut it off and walk away backwards. And yes, I'm just so very pleased that I decided to buy this car instead of "be responsible" and put all my money into mutual funds.
 
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Especially a LE Boxster !! That is my favorite of all time Boxsters .I wish my cayman was orange and black it really makes me DROOL .
 
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Does the cayman offers the same fun experience as the boxster?
 
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Originally Posted by MartinF
Does the cayman offers the same fun experience as the boxster?
I think the Cayman handles a smidge better then the Boxster since the solid roof reinforces the frame and provides additional rigidity. Of course, the Boxster is great on a nice day with the top down
 
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the cayman/boxster is the best handling car i have ever driven. better than any ferrari or lambo ive driven (which are both mid engined also, so a fair comparison). it is so much fun! the thing i hated most about my BMWs was that they are boring unless youre going full throttle thrashing the car around. the Porsche is fun whether youre going 10 mph or 100. it is also one of the best handling cars ever made. and its way better than the z4m/e46 m3, in every way, and while the c5 vette is faster, this car handles much better. the car is def about the sum of its parts rather than just one by itself. go out and drive one and see for yourself.
 


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