OK, I understand the stainless steel skid plates. I've got 'em. But I can't for the life of me understand why a man won't order up the latest in handling technology!

I'd rather have a heavily optioned S with PDDC and PVT than a Turbo without those. In fact, I'd be tempted to forgo the turbo next time--just get the PASM and the trimings of the turbo. The price should be $30,000 less that way and I'd have the better handling machine, albeit less powerful.

 

What if i added just PTV? Think that would be sufficient enough? I would add the sport package, but i dont want the paddle shifters

 

Oh, I forgot about those paddle shifters. When you try the toggle switches I have, you'll realize and want the benefits of those paddles as well.

PDDC is a must--if you want it to handle far better and be more comfortable.

I know, I kust kicked your bill up above $120K.

While it's easier shopping with other people's money, I just WOULD NOT BUY right now unless I had money to burn or really wanted a specific configuration.

Most turbos come heavily optioned. With the economy falling and failing, I'd wait until March and pick one off the lot for $10k-20 cheaper.

 

...will do... Love that remark..will do. In any case with a harsher winter predicted for this year, as much as I would have loved to spare my c4s...I would be without my winter daily driver. This is my only 4WD car. I hope you can understand and empathize with me

 

[quote=w00tPORSCHE;3007357]...will do... Love that remark..will do. In any case with a harsher winter predicted for this year, as much as I would have loved to spare my c4s...I would be without my winter daily driver. This is my only 4WD car. I hope you can understand and empathize with me

Yes i do empathize with you, so I will drop off my 2002 Dodge Ram Pickup.. I'm leaving today so I will be there in 3 weeks (if it makes it all the way)

 

Here are the comments from my sales guy regarding PTV & PDCC:

"A Cayenne Turbo handles terrific with standard features. The PTV does make a noticeable difference on the curves and is money well spent. I would save the $3500 on the PDCC, doesn’t mean that it isn’t nice to have but the PTV makes a bigger difference and is less than half the cost"

 

Okay ok-computadora, this is purely my opinion/thought: Other than the cost savings benefit, tell me one reason why someone would'nt want to spend an additional 3.5K (for PDCC) on a 100K SUV. Wait a minute, 100K SUV and cost savings...seems like oxymoron to me. I am the one who will drive my SUV (well actually my wife mostly) and not the sales guy for years to come. An active anti-roll system will enhance road handling for sure. BTW, I did notice bodyroll on the CS that I test drove without PDCC (and PTV). It is your money, you make the call. But once you make the call (whichever way you go) please have no regrets at a later date. Just not worth second guessing yourself on a 100K dollar vehicle. It's like these guys who buy a car for 110K and then feel bad when someone else got it for 2K less .

 

I had the same debate to my order and ended up modifying my build sheet to INCLUDE PTV and PDDC. In the end, I felt I would never be sorry (or rather I would forget) I spent the extra 4% on the vehicle but certainly might feel that I could have had a slightly better SUV on the odd occasion that those two options would kick in - needless to say a slightly better offering on resale at the appropriate time...

 

Cost savings = keeping wife happy who understands 100k+ SUV is a bit loco. Plus I will not be going to a track and I think a TT without PDCC + PTV is more capable than nearly every other car on the road (unless its a TT with PDCC+PTV or a 2 door Porsche)

I would probably sneak in the Sport Package, but I dont want paddle shifters. THis will be my daily driver and I would miss multi-function too much. PDCC + PTV without the sport package are $5k. I don't know how much they will increase resale either. I sold my S that had$19k in mods and barely recouped any of that in a private sale.

 

the only reason I would not get the PDCC isn't for $$, but only for the reason of, the PDCC stiffens up the complete suspension. Do get the NO body roll like my GTS with PDCC you also get a stiffer all around ride in each of the different modes.

If you dont get the PDCC but opt for the PVT, you will get the benifit of the PVT, but without the stiffness of the PDCC. Granted the PDCC will add NO BODY ROLL when cornering, WHICH I LOVE in my GTS, but that is the ONLY reason I'd opt out of that option...

A Cayenne without PDCC drives like my cayenne gts with my winter tire setup. Comfy feeling.... rather than the stiffer 21's summer. I only know this from driving my GTS as a daily, then driving the new turbo without PDCC. it is a noticable feeling when driving in a straight line, but nothing extreme., it's like 21 inch summer, vs 18 inch winter tires. That's my best description vs the PDCC vs without (in a straight line, just road feel) NOT cornering...

BTW.

You're newly purchased winter setup will hopefully be going out tomorrow time permitting.

 

ok-computadora: How important is rear airbags/4 zone climate control. Did not see that on the original order. Is it standard for the CTT ? Also the roof rails can't be added later..

I respectfully disagree with your comment. When it comes to pure handling, I feel that a CS with PASM, PDCC, PTV will be better than a base CTT.

Jace, thank you for a very nice price on your winter set up which will go onto my 2011 CS once it arrives at the dealership. That was a very good gesture on your part for a feelow 6speeder. You get rep points. BTW, the benefits of PDCC is just not the anti-roll. It includes, greater agility at every speed, more responsive steering and enhanced occupant comfort (due to the stable load transfer characteristics).

 

[quote=Jace;3008453]the only reason I would not get the PDCC isn't for $$, but only for the reason of, the PDCC stiffens up the complete suspension"

Jace, are you suggesting the suspension is too firm? I sold my S on steel because of that. I have a newborn that will be in the car often enough and don't want a jarring ride that came with my S.

here are some vidoes of PDCC in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkYzI...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL0Cj...eature=related

 

The suspension with pdcc is NOT too rough, just a bit stiffer. Nothing you will probably complain over. I would still get the pdcc again even though I mention stiffer all around ride, it's just a bit smoother without. A 2010 or before model with pdcc isn't an equal comparison to a 2011 with it. They are different cats weigh different. Just saying a bi softer without but the benefits if it are worth still getting.