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Old Apr 9, 2012 | 08:32 AM
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Should lazy people avoid JBM?

I need to finalize my order this week and all these threads about JBM being easily scratched, swirled, dirtied, etc. are making me nervous. I am not the type of person who will wash my car by hand every weekend. With my current white Jag, I take it to the best car wash in the area and they do a decent job, but it's white - not JBM. My current spec is JBM on black interior. I won't be totally **** about how it looks but I do want it to look nice and unscratched when its clean. Is JBM bad enough so that I should consider changing my exterior colour to white or Navy blue?
 
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My friend started taking his black metallic 911 through a touch less car wash and I saw it once right after and it looked great last year.

I have had my jbm cayenne for 2-3 mo and go touchless every 2 weeks and I'm happy with it. No new swirls. I have washed it by hand once after a touchless wash during winter because of dirt build up that didn't clean well after the touch less .

I now bring my grey metallic 911 thru touchless also occasionally, but not as often because swirls not visible on this color and it's a small car to clean. I used to hand clean every week!

Definitely will have ppl say its not good to bring it to touchless too often but I have not found any good facts that shows it's proven to be harmful for the car. Touchless won't put on any swirls!! If it ever becomes a problem on the jbm I ll inform ppl here!
 
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Thx for reply. I've never had a black vehicle before and decided that this time, on this vehicle, it looks great and I really want it. All the negative posts on JBM dificulty freeking me out a bit though, and I need to finalize by Thursday. Thx for the reassurance.
 
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I got my first JBM 3 weeks ago. Washed it once at touchless carwash. Afraid to wash it by hand-reading other posts as how to do it correctly
The color is beautiful though!
 
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Bought a black one and kept it all of two weeks before I traded it in on a white one because of the scratches it showed. What put me over the edge were the swirl marks the dealer put in while trying to rub-out a scuff mark prior to delivery. Looking at that area in the sunlight one time was enough for me to trade in. Black is nice looking but shows everything. White is not as deep, but very forgiving.

Same on the interior, black shows all the dust/pollen whereas tan doesn't.

IMO white/tan is a great combo for **** retentive folks.
 

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IMO, white (or silver) on black is least maintenance. The Mrs' Black on Beige is the worst. Porsche likes to beige out their carpets as well, and even after getting black floormats and cargo liner, the shoe marks on the beige carpet cannot be avoided. Black scuffs also show on the door panels if you ever touch it with shoes ingress/egress.

Only thing is with Black interiors, the leather tends to buff to a shine on spots you sit on over time. It does need tlc, but better than shampooing beige carpets.
 
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+1 on touchless drive thru's. I know the harsher chemicals do strip wax, but it is not feasible for me to wash her car every other week. It helps keep it looking somewhat clean if you just scrub the wheels yourself prior. I use soap and a soft bristle on the wheels prior to going to touchless. Then it comes out 75% clean. The brake dust, esp on the 21" SportEd, is a real pain.

To me (and my laziness / schedule), I'd rather have her driving around 90% of the time 75% clean and shiny and strip some wax, than her driving around 90% of the time looking like a dust bunny with wax intact.
 

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+1 on touchless drive thru's. I know the harsher chemicals do strip wax, but it is not feasible for me to wash her car every other week. It helps keep it looking somewhat clean if you just scrub the wheels yourself prior. I use soap and a soft bristle on the wheels prior to going to touchless. Then it comes out 75% clean. The brake dust, esp on the 21" SportEd, is a real pain.

To me (and my laziness / schedule), I'd rather have her driving around 90% of the time 75% clean and shiny and strip some wax, than her driving around 90% of the time looking like a dust bunny with wax intact.
Agree as to all. Brush wheels and use no touch weekly. Hand wash monthly. Wax (myself) quarterly. Silver exterior and black interior really make it a much easier job.
 
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Originally Posted by j080808
Bought a black one and kept it all of two weeks before I traded it in on a white one because of the scratches it showed. What put me over the edge were the swirl marks the dealer put in while trying to rub-out a scuff mark prior to delivery. Looking at that area in the sunlight one time was enough for me to trade in. Black is nice looking but shows everything. White is not as deep, but very forgiving.

Same on the interior, black shows all the dust/pollen whereas tan doesn't.

IMO white/tan is a great combo for **** retentive folks.
I did the exact same thing except I had my CS for a little longer = three months. I traded it in for a gray CTT.

It drove me crazy trying to keep a larger black vehicle clean and I hated seeing the clearcoat scratches. Having the vehicle in AZ where it is sunny all the time did not help. I can honestly say that unless it is the deal of the century I will never own a black vehicle again.
 
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Hmmm - confused again/still. The only two options (other than JBM) I would consider are white or Dark Blue. Do you guys think the dark blue will have the same issues as the JBM?
 
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Dark Blue will certainly show dirt more than lighter colors. Not sure about the swirl issues. It is a very dark version of Blue.
 
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Dark Blue, JBM and other dark metallic colors will hide swirls a little bit better than straight black, but it'll still be apparent in direct sunlight. White and Silver are best. On my silver M5, I can only see swirls in sunlight if I put my nose to the paint. Same goes for her white Merc. So for non-show cars, I consider White and Silver pretty much swirl-proof. And another plus is that those two colors hides dust so well, you can get away with a dirty car as long as the wheels are clean and no one brushes their butt on the dust to reveal a spot of the "true" white / silver underneath the film of dust.
 
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Swirls are just a fact of life with black cars. The only time you wont have swirls are... well... maybe right after a full polish and wax.
 
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Hmmm - confused again/still. The only two options (other than JBM) I would consider are white or Dark Blue. Do you guys think the dark blue will have the same issues as the JBM?
Yes. Our 2010 Audi A6 wagon is dark metallic blue (very, very close to the dark blue Porsche offers on the Cayenne) and while it arguably does hide dirt/swirls/etc. slightly better than black... the difference is miniscule. You might as well get black.
 
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It's unavoidable .... one of the drawbacks of having a beatiful dark car ...
 
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